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From: Dinosaur_Sr on 16 Mar 2010 21:51 On Mar 12, 2:59 pm, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio- state.edu> wrote: > In article > <754b084d-132e-4b74-bd32-f5b7a630d...(a)q21g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, > > > > Dinosaur_Sr <frostb...(a)dukesofbiohazard.com> wrote: > > On Mar 12, 9:51 am, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio- > > state.edu> wrote: > > > In article > > > <2f91b389-c7f8-4667-9fce-1ce513317...(a)e7g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, > > > > Dinosaur Sr <frostb...(a)dukesofbiohazard.com> wrote: > > > > On Mar 11, 8:34 pm, William Clark <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > In article > > > > > <231c5512-3948-4533-bcb4-14ceaa115...(a)o3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > Dinosaur Sr <frostb...(a)dukesofbiohazard.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Mar 11, 9:13 am, "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Mar 11, 7:36 am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > In article <01bfp5lrgg2sdmnki7ns3htvo1hoaoc...(a)4ax.com>, > > > > > > > > bkni...(a)conramp.net says... > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:58:42 -0500, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >In article <i3jcp5dsccn4ake2u7vil3j2bqiicpg...(a)4ax.com>, > > > > > > > > > >bkni...(a)conramp.net says... > > > > > > > > > > >> You and Rob should hope that nothing like what Clark's, or > > > > > > > > > >> John > > > > > > > > > >> B's > > > > > > > > > >> families experienced will never happen to yours. If it did > > > > > > > > > >> I > > > > > > > > > >> doubt > > > > > > > > > >> that he would make political use of it here. > > > > > > > > > > >Let's see, undiagnosed esophageal cancer, Colon cancer, > > > > > > > > > >Lymphoma, > > > > > > > > > >Breast > > > > > > > > > >cancer requiring a radical bi-lateral mastectomy. And we, my > > > > > > > > > >sisters > > > > > > > > > >and > > > > > > > > > >I, all have the genes that produce blood clots, got that from > > > > > > > > > >both > > > > > > > > > >parents. And this is just my parents and siblings. If you > > > > > > > > > >want to > > > > > > > > > >talk > > > > > > > > > >about Alzheimer's and the devastating effects that has on > > > > > > > > > >people > > > > > > > > > >lets > > > > > > > > > >get started. > > > > > > > > > > No you idiot, let's NOT get started. I guarantee you that > > > > > > > > > neither > > > > > > > > > Clark nor John wilt make political hay out of your family's > > > > > > > > > problems, > > > > > > > > > nor be callous enough to suggest that you may have made > > > > > > > > > mistakes in > > > > > > > > > their treatment. > > > > > > > > > > >Everyone's families experience hardships and setbacks. It's > > > > > > > > > >how > > > > > > > > > >you > > > > > > > > > >choose to deal with them that is at issue. Singling out a > > > > > > > > > >specific > > > > > > > > > >illness or diseases is just the desire of someone to sit on > > > > > > > > > >the > > > > > > > > > >pity- > > > > > > > > > >potty for a while. > > > > > > > > > > Have you no shame???? Leave remarks about family out of these > > > > > > > > > posts. > > > > > > > > > Stop whining. > > > > > > > > > Clark was using his father's situation to show how good the NHS > > > > > > > > system > > > > > > > > in the UK is and he and you are upset that some of us didn't just > > > > > > > > sit > > > > > > > > around and keep our mouths shut. If you are going to bring your > > > > > > > > family > > > > > > > > in to support your argument, as Clark did, then you had better > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > constitutional fortitude to take some heat on the issue.- Hide > > > > > > > > quoted > > > > > > > > text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > I'm sure both Bill and I would be happy to take heat from someone > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > something intelligent to say. What we got was total bullshit from > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > ignoramus who thought he could educate us about a disease that > > > > > > > killed > > > > > > > both our parents. > > > > > > > You really want me to "educate" you on ALS? I can, you know! > > > > > > No, you can't. You can run off to Wikepedia and try to palm off a cut > > > > > and paste job as yours, but we can all see through that BS. Besides, > > > > > it's plagiarism, and I am sure someone as high minded and virtuous as > > > > > yourself wouldn't stoop to it. > > > > > > I lived with this disease for three years, educated my self on its > > > > > speculated causes and avenues of research, and worked with a senior > > > > > faculty member in the medical school who has a chair partly endowed to > > > > > work on treatments and cures for ALS. I have forgotten more about this > > > > > disease than you will ever know. In the meantime, I recommend a > > > > > freshman > > > > > undergraduate materials science textbook, Callister's "Materials > > > > > Science > > > > > and Engineering" that might at least make you look even remotely > > > > > cognizant with materials science. > > > > > Can't see that the materials science book you suggest would have mush > > > > to say about genetic diseases, which is the issue here. > > > > No, the issue is that you would be better employed to actually try to > > > learn something about an area you claim expertise in, and a freshman > > > level materials text should be closer to your speed than this ALS cut > > > and paste. > > > Well, as you clearly think a materials science textbook will enlighten > > people on genetic diseases, I can now more fully understand your loony > > posting here! > > No, I was suggesting that you should learn to walk before you run, and a > freshman materials science text would make a good start. Clearly even > simple English comprehension is beyond you, so maybe Callister is, too. I know quite a bit about genetic diseases, and I don't think a freshman text in materials science will add anything to anyone's knowledge of genetic diseases, which is the issue here.
From: William Clark on 17 Mar 2010 08:51 In article <43b3ca2c-8e61-4e45-9266-eea00fdec4e5(a)q16g2000yqq.googlegroups.com>, Dinosaur_Sr <frostback(a)dukesofbiohazard.com> wrote: > On Mar 12, 2:59�pm, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio- > state.edu> wrote: > > In article > > <754b084d-132e-4b74-bd32-f5b7a630d...(a)q21g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > > > �Dinosaur Sr <frostb...(a)dukesofbiohazard.com> wrote: > > > On Mar 12, 9:51�am, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio- > > > state.edu> wrote: > > > > In article > > > > <2f91b389-c7f8-4667-9fce-1ce513317...(a)e7g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > �Dinosaur Sr <frostb...(a)dukesofbiohazard.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 11, 8:34�pm, William Clark <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > In article > > > > > > <231c5512-3948-4533-bcb4-14ceaa115...(a)o3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > > > �Dinosaur Sr <frostb...(a)dukesofbiohazard.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Mar 11, 9:13�am, "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mar 11, 7:36�am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > In article <01bfp5lrgg2sdmnki7ns3htvo1hoaoc...(a)4ax.com>, > > > > > > > > > bkni...(a)conramp.net says... > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:58:42 -0500, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >In article <i3jcp5dsccn4ake2u7vil3j2bqiicpg...(a)4ax.com>, > > > > > > > > > > >bkni...(a)conramp.net says... > > > > > > > > > > > > >> You and Rob should hope that nothing like what Clark's, > > > > > > > > > > >> or > > > > > > > > > > >> John > > > > > > > > > > >> B's > > > > > > > > > > >> families experienced will never happen to yours. �If it > > > > > > > > > > >> did > > > > > > > > > > >> I > > > > > > > > > > >> doubt > > > > > > > > > > >> that he would make political use of it here. > > > > > > > > > > > > >Let's see, undiagnosed esophageal cancer, Colon cancer, > > > > > > > > > > >Lymphoma, > > > > > > > > > > >Breast > > > > > > > > > > >cancer requiring a radical bi-lateral mastectomy. And we, > > > > > > > > > > >my > > > > > > > > > > >sisters > > > > > > > > > > >and > > > > > > > > > > >I, all have the genes that produce blood clots, got that > > > > > > > > > > >from > > > > > > > > > > >both > > > > > > > > > > >parents. �And this is just my parents and siblings. If you > > > > > > > > > > >want to > > > > > > > > > > >talk > > > > > > > > > > >about Alzheimer's and the devastating effects that has on > > > > > > > > > > >people > > > > > > > > > > >lets > > > > > > > > > > >get started. > > > > > > > > > > > > No you idiot, let's NOT get started. �I guarantee you that > > > > > > > > > > neither > > > > > > > > > > Clark nor John wilt make political hay out of your family's > > > > > > > > > > problems, > > > > > > > > > > nor be callous enough to suggest that you may have made > > > > > > > > > > mistakes in > > > > > > > > > > their treatment. > > > > > > > > > > > > >Everyone's families experience hardships and setbacks. > > > > > > > > > > >It's > > > > > > > > > > >how > > > > > > > > > > >you > > > > > > > > > > >choose to deal with them that is at issue. Singling out a > > > > > > > > > > >specific > > > > > > > > > > >illness or diseases is just the desire of someone to sit > > > > > > > > > > >on > > > > > > > > > > >the > > > > > > > > > > >pity- > > > > > > > > > > >potty for a while. > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you no shame???? �Leave remarks about family out of > > > > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > > posts. > > > > > > > > > > > Stop whining. > > > > > > > > > > > Clark was using his father's situation to show how good the > > > > > > > > > NHS > > > > > > > > > system > > > > > > > > > in the UK is and he and you are upset that some of us didn't > > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > sit > > > > > > > > > around and keep our mouths shut. If you are going to bring > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > family > > > > > > > > > in to support your argument, as Clark did, then you had > > > > > > > > > better > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > constitutional fortitude to take some heat on the issue.- > > > > > > > > > Hide > > > > > > > > > quoted > > > > > > > > > text - > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > I'm sure both Bill and I would be happy to take heat from > > > > > > > > someone > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > something intelligent to say. What we got was total bullshit > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > ignoramus who thought he could educate us about a disease that > > > > > > > > killed > > > > > > > > both our parents. > > > > > > > > > You really want me to "educate" you on ALS? I can, you know! > > > > > > > > No, you can't. You can run off to Wikepedia and try to palm off a > > > > > > cut > > > > > > and paste job as yours, but we can all see through that BS. > > > > > > Besides, > > > > > > it's plagiarism, and I am sure someone as high minded and virtuous > > > > > > as > > > > > > yourself wouldn't stoop to it. > > > > > > > > I lived with this disease for three years, educated my self on its > > > > > > speculated causes and avenues of research, and worked with a senior > > > > > > faculty member in the medical school who has a chair partly endowed > > > > > > to > > > > > > work on treatments and cures for ALS. I have forgotten more about > > > > > > this > > > > > > disease than you will ever know. In the meantime, I recommend a > > > > > > freshman > > > > > > undergraduate materials science textbook, Callister's "Materials > > > > > > Science > > > > > > and Engineering" that might at least make you look even remotely > > > > > > cognizant with materials science. > > > > > > > Can't see that the materials science book you suggest would have mush > > > > > to say about genetic diseases, which is the issue here. > > > > > > No, the issue is that you would be better employed to actually try to > > > > learn something about an area you claim expertise in, and a freshman > > > > level materials text should be closer to your speed than this ALS cut > > > > and paste. > > > > > Well, as you clearly think a materials science textbook will enlighten > > > people on genetic diseases, I can now more fully understand your loony > > > posting here! > > > > No, I was suggesting that you should learn to walk before you run, and a > > freshman materials science text would make a good start. Clearly even > > simple English comprehension is beyond you, so maybe Callister is, too. > > I know quite a bit about genetic diseases, and I don't think a > freshman text in materials science will add anything to anyone's > knowledge of genetic diseases, which is the issue here. No, but it might bring you up to speed on a field you claim to be familiar with and have published in. When you get stuck on simple things like point groups, I can help, but not if you continue to believe there is such a thing as an "x-ray crystallograph". It would at least be a start - complicated things like diseases can come later, but you need to walk before you run.
From: Don Kirkman on 18 Mar 2010 14:02 On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:49:02 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: >Didn't Pelosi recently state that "we need to pass the bill so that you >will know what is in it/" I don't know, did she? If so please show us where and when. Otherwise you're just casting aspersions, not discussing. -- Don Kirkman donsno2(a)charter.net
From: MNMikeW on 18 Mar 2010 14:11 "Don Kirkman" <donsno2(a)charter.net> wrote in message news:iql4q5140u2ug1fsma98n4ekc3bv4tdebh(a)4ax.com... > On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:49:02 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > >>Didn't Pelosi recently state that "we need to pass the bill so that you >>will know what is in it/" > > I don't know, did she? If so please show us where and when. Otherwise > you're just casting aspersions, not discussing. > -- http://www.breitbart.tv/nancy-pelosi-we-need-to-pass-health-care-bill-to-find-out-whats-in-it/
From: bknight on 18 Mar 2010 15:58
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:11:36 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote: > >"Don Kirkman" <donsno2(a)charter.net> wrote in message >news:iql4q5140u2ug1fsma98n4ekc3bv4tdebh(a)4ax.com... >> On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:49:02 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: >> >>>Didn't Pelosi recently state that "we need to pass the bill so that you >>>will know what is in it/" >> >> I don't know, did she? If so please show us where and when. Otherwise >> you're just casting aspersions, not discussing. >> -- >http://www.breitbart.tv/nancy-pelosi-we-need-to-pass-health-care-bill-to-find-out-whats-in-it/ > The exact quote: �But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy". Makes a little more sense, since she was obviously speaking to the public. BK |