From: BAR on
In article <iql4q5140u2ug1fsma98n4ekc3bv4tdebh(a)4ax.com>, donsno2
@charter.net says...
>
> On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:49:02 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
>
> >Didn't Pelosi recently state that "we need to pass the bill so that you
> >will know what is in it/"
>
> I don't know, did she? If so please show us where and when. Otherwise
> you're just casting aspersions, not discussing.

When are you going to learn that I don't lie, I don't make things up and
you should never doubt me.

http://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/pressreleases?id=1576

?But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it,
away from the fog of the controversy. Furthermore, we believe that
health care reform, again I said at the beginning of my remarks, that we
sent the three pillars that the President?s economic stabilization and
job creation initiatives were education and innovation?innovation begins
in the classroom?clean energy and climate, addressing the climate issues
in an innovative way to keep us number one and competitive in the world
with the new technology, and the third, first among equals I may say, is
health care, health insurance reform. Health insurance reform is about
jobs. This legislation alone will create 4 million jobs, about 400,000
jobs very soon.

And, if you want to hear Pelosi say it herself go here:
http://blog.heritage.org/2010/03/10/video-of-the-week-we-have-to-pass-
the-bill-so-you-can-find-out-what-is-in-it/

From: BAR on
In article <vd15q5dviutdv8rvnu53c356lli3fc9bi2(a)4ax.com>,
bknight(a)conramp.net says...
>
> On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:11:36 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Don Kirkman" <donsno2(a)charter.net> wrote in message
> >news:iql4q5140u2ug1fsma98n4ekc3bv4tdebh(a)4ax.com...
> >> On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:49:02 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Didn't Pelosi recently state that "we need to pass the bill so that you
> >>>will know what is in it/"
> >>
> >> I don't know, did she? If so please show us where and when. Otherwise
> >> you're just casting aspersions, not discussing.
> >> --
> >http://www.breitbart.tv/nancy-pelosi-we-need-to-pass-health-care-bill-to-find-out-whats-in-it/
> >
>
> The exact quote:
>
> ?But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it,
> away from the fog of the controversy".
>
> Makes a little more sense, since she was obviously speaking to the
> public.

What does "away from the fog of the controversy" have to do with
anything. The language of the bill is the language of the bill. The
controversy is why hasn't the language of the bill been made public yet?
This months long deal making in back rooms, locking out the opposition,
flying people around on AF1 doesn't do a thing to remove the fog of
controversy, in fact it pumps up the fog of controversy.


From: BAR on
In article <ie25q55rsj82knqv74t3tnlutm51lvfb0k(a)4ax.com>,
bknight(a)conramp.net says...
>
> On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:06:12 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> ><bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
> >news:vd15q5dviutdv8rvnu53c356lli3fc9bi2(a)4ax.com...
> >> On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:11:36 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>>
> >>>"Don Kirkman" <donsno2(a)charter.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:iql4q5140u2ug1fsma98n4ekc3bv4tdebh(a)4ax.com...
> >>>> On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:49:02 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Didn't Pelosi recently state that "we need to pass the bill so that you
> >>>>>>>will know what is in it/"
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't know, did she? If so please show us where and when. Otherwise
> >>>> you're just casting aspersions, not discussing.
> >>>> --
> >>>http://www.breitbart.tv/nancy-pelosi-we-need-to-pass-health-care-bill-to-find-out-whats-in-it/
> >>>
> >>
> >> The exact quote:
> >>
> >> "But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it,
> >> away from the fog of the controversy".
> >>
> >> Makes a little more sense, since she was obviously speaking to the
> >> public.
> >>
> >> BK
> >>
> >It still makes NO sense. You do not have to pass a bill to find out what is
> >in it. Unless of course, they are trying to hid something. If she truly
> >wanted to clear the "fog of the controversy", post it so people can ready
> >it, you know, like Obama promised.
> >
> >
> Unfortunately its still in progress and who knows what last minute
> changes will be made, so it makes perfect sense to anyone with half a
> brain. Can you say that you've known every thing in any bill before
> it has been passed? No.

We are not talking about building a highway in Kansas Bobby.

> There are always riders and the ubiquitous pork in all of them....at
> the last minute.

Nice try but, your position is very tenuous.

From: William Clark on
In article <MPG.260c6bbdd72972c2989cee(a)news.giganews.com>,
BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:

> In article <iql4q5140u2ug1fsma98n4ekc3bv4tdebh(a)4ax.com>, donsno2
> @charter.net says...
> >
> > On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:49:02 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Didn't Pelosi recently state that "we need to pass the bill so that you
> > >will know what is in it/"
> >
> > I don't know, did she? If so please show us where and when. Otherwise
> > you're just casting aspersions, not discussing.
>
> When are you going to learn that I don't lie, I don't make things up and
> you should never doubt me.
>
> http://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/pressreleases?id=1576
>
> ?But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it,
> away from the fog of the controversy. Furthermore, we believe that
> health care reform, again I said at the beginning of my remarks, that we
> sent the three pillars that the President?s economic stabilization and
> job creation initiatives were education and innovation?innovation begins
> in the classroom?clean energy and climate, addressing the climate issues
> in an innovative way to keep us number one and competitive in the world
> with the new technology, and the third, first among equals I may say, is
> health care, health insurance reform. Health insurance reform is about
> jobs. This legislation alone will create 4 million jobs, about 400,000
> jobs very soon.
>
> And, if you want to hear Pelosi say it herself go here:
> http://blog.heritage.org/2010/03/10/video-of-the-week-we-have-to-pass-
> the-bill-so-you-can-find-out-what-is-in-it/

"Away from the fog of the controversy". Of course, such qualifiers mean
nothing to you bigots.
From: William Clark on
In article <MPG.260c6ccdbdf479e8989cef(a)news.giganews.com>,
BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:

> In article <vd15q5dviutdv8rvnu53c356lli3fc9bi2(a)4ax.com>,
> bknight(a)conramp.net says...
> >
> > On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:11:36 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"Don Kirkman" <donsno2(a)charter.net> wrote in message
> > >news:iql4q5140u2ug1fsma98n4ekc3bv4tdebh(a)4ax.com...
> > >> On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:49:02 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>Didn't Pelosi recently state that "we need to pass the bill so that you
> > >>>will know what is in it/"
> > >>
> > >> I don't know, did she? If so please show us where and when. Otherwise
> > >> you're just casting aspersions, not discussing.
> > >> --
> > >http://www.breitbart.tv/nancy-pelosi-we-need-to-pass-health-care-bill-to-fi
> > >nd-out-whats-in-it/
> > >
> >
> > The exact quote:
> >
> > ?But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it,
> > away from the fog of the controversy".
> >
> > Makes a little more sense, since she was obviously speaking to the
> > public.
>
> What does "away from the fog of the controversy" have to do with
> anything. The language of the bill is the language of the bill. The
> controversy is why hasn't the language of the bill been made public yet?
> This months long deal making in back rooms, locking out the opposition,
> flying people around on AF1 doesn't do a thing to remove the fog of
> controversy, in fact it pumps up the fog of controversy.

Only for those already fully prejudiced.