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From: BAR on 12 Feb 2010 13:51 Like I said show me the SEC filings of the Health Insurance companies are reaching 15 to 20 percent profits. Was the guy just there giving testimony or was he a sworn witness before the committee. There is a big difference. If he wasn't sworn in before giving testimony then whatever he said has the weight of air and is not under penalty of perjury. In article <ZGgdn.19629$4p5.12232(a)newsfe22.iad>, dontwrite(a)gmail.com says... > > The whistleblower who testified before > congress said so. That hasn't been disputed. > So if you see the stats in undeniable form > what difference would it make ... oh yeah > You'd invest. Says it all. > > "BAR" <screw(a)you.com> wrote in message > news:MPG.25df5dbd711bf092989ba2(a)news.giganews.com... > > In article <ilgdn.19620$4p5.1063(a)newsfe22.iad>, dontwrite(a)gmail.com > > says... > >> > >> "BAR" <screw(a)you.com> wrote in message > >> news:MPG.25df131f2ce10960989b97(a)news.giganews.com... > >> > In article <oy0dn.144819$kQ5.41489(a)newsfe08.iad>, dontwrite(a)gmail.com > >> > says... > >> >> > >> >> I said give me the same options ... can you read? > >> >> Feds have to pay for their insurance but the profit > >> >> of the insurance is restricted and they have a bunch > >> >> of options. I guess this issues isn't important to you. > >> >> Tell me why please. > >> > > >> > You can have all of the health care you pay for, just like you can have > >> > all of the food you can pay for, just like you can have all of the > >> > house > >> > you can pay for, and just like you can have all of the car you can pay > >> > for. > >> > > >> > Nobody is stopping you, now, from obtaining any type, kind or amount of > >> > health care except yourself. > >> > >> Is the part where health care insurers are making a 15% - 20% > >> profit on the general public and 1% on federal - is that relevant > >> or just another liberal talking point? 8-\ > > > > Show me the SEC filings of the Health Insurance companies that are > > making 15 to 20 percent profits. I would like to invest in those > > companies.
From: Kommienezuspadt on 12 Feb 2010 14:28 "BAR" <screw(a)you.com> wrote in message news:MPG.25df147c1539a4f0989b98(a)news.giganews.com... > In article <4b749a6f$0$20327$882e0bbb(a)news.ThunderNews.com>, > NoSpam(a)NoThanks.net says... >> >> "gray asphalt" <dontwrite(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:oy0dn.144819$kQ5.41489(a)newsfe08.iad... >> >I said give me the same options ... can you read? >> > Feds have to pay for their insurance but the profit >> > of the insurance is restricted and they have a bunch >> > of options. I guess this issues isn't important to you. >> > Tell me why please. >> > >> > >> >> dene is more than a little biased towards the insurance industry - hence >> the >> knee jerk --- >> >> posted while wondering how dene will defend Wellpoint / Anthem's 39% rate >> increase in California & the 31% increase planned for at least some in >> Indiana while reporting an almost 5 billion dollar profit in the last 3 >> months --- and admitting that their medical costs went up @ 8% last >> year -- >> must be they want the lobbying money they spent back -- real quick & >> with a >> mega profit. > > It would help if you would provide the whole story and not just part of > the story that fits your blame the insurance company argument. > > The first three paragraphs of the article below are enlightening and > shoot holes through your argument. > > http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/insurance/2010-02-11-wellpoint- > explains-hike_N.htm?csp=34 > > INDIANAPOLIS ? Health insurer WellPoint blames a shift in demographics > and rising medical costs for its planned 39% rate hike for some > California customers. > > In a memo obtained by The Associated Press, WellPoint tells Health and > Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius that because of the weak > economy, healthy people are dropping coverage or buying cheaper plans. > The decline in premium revenue means there's less money to cover claims > from sicker customers who are keeping their coverage. That resulted in a > 2009 loss for the unit. The insurer says its 2010 rates aim to cover the > shortfall expected from the continuation of that trend. > > WellPoint said a minority of customers will see 39% increases and that > those customers have an option to choose plans with a lower premium but > higher out of pocket costs. > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 4861 (20100212) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > Gee -- "Wellpoint blames" ----- so -- you buy their statements at full face value --- I get it -- dene & BAR sitting in a tree... but -- tell me one thing I posted that was wrong. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4861 (20100212) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
From: BAR on 12 Feb 2010 14:42 In article <4b75abf9$0$18837$882e0bbb(a)news.ThunderNews.com>, NoSpam(a)NoWay.com says... > Gee -- "Wellpoint blames" ----- so -- you buy their statements at full face > value --- I get it -- dene & BAR sitting in a tree... > > but -- tell me one thing I posted that was wrong. > "It would help if you would provide the whole story and not just part of the story that fits your blame the insurance company argument." I didn't say anything you posted was wrong. I faulted you for not posting more information, information that did not support your argument. How many drinks have you had this afternoon?
From: William Clark on 12 Feb 2010 14:55 In article <MPG.25df791d83f3cd29989ba7(a)news.giganews.com>, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <4b75abf9$0$18837$882e0bbb(a)news.ThunderNews.com>, > NoSpam(a)NoWay.com says... > > Gee -- "Wellpoint blames" ----- so -- you buy their statements at full face > > value --- I get it -- dene & BAR sitting in a tree... > > > > but -- tell me one thing I posted that was wrong. > > > > "It would help if you would provide the whole story and not just part of > the story that fits your blame the insurance company argument." > > I didn't say anything you posted was wrong. I faulted you for not > posting more information, information that did not support your > argument. > > How many drinks have you had this afternoon? Not enough to confuse you with someone intelligent.
From: Kommienezuspadt on 12 Feb 2010 17:37
"BAR" <screw(a)you.com> wrote in message news:MPG.25df791d83f3cd29989ba7(a)news.giganews.com... > In article <4b75abf9$0$18837$882e0bbb(a)news.ThunderNews.com>, > NoSpam(a)NoWay.com says... >> Gee -- "Wellpoint blames" ----- so -- you buy their statements at full >> face >> value --- I get it -- dene & BAR sitting in a tree... >> >> but -- tell me one thing I posted that was wrong. >> > > "It would help if you would provide the whole story and not just part of > the story that fits your blame the insurance company argument." > > I didn't say anything you posted was wrong. I faulted you for not > posting more information, information that did not support your > argument. > > How many drinks have you had this afternoon? > > If I had any respect for you -- it would be too much. |