From: John B. on
On Feb 18, 3:58 pm, Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote:
> On Feb 17, 8:30 pm, "gray asphalt" <dontwr...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > "Dinosaur_Sr" <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote in message
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> >news:f61d6fbf-d4e5-42c5-ad46-7dd4ce8418e3(a)k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com....
> > On Feb 17, 5:00 pm, "gray asphalt" <dontwr...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote in message
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> > >news:7u300eFgdqU1(a)mid.individual.net...
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> > > > "gray asphalt" <dontwr...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > >news:d7Xen.8$Ee1.4(a)newsfe12.iad...
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> > > >> "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote in message
> > > >>news:7tnb50Fs8nU1(a)mid.individual.net...
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> > > >> > "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > >> >news:4b75e854$0$21064$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
> > > >> >> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:27:03 -0500, BAR wrote:
> > > >> >> > In article <oy0dn.144819$kQ5.41...(a)newsfe08.iad>,
> > > >> >> > dontwr...(a)gmail.com
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> > > >> >> Great! I'd like healthcare that covers me for every possible illness
> > > >> >> with no upfront co-pays at less than 2/3 of what I'm paying now,
> > > >> >> with
> > > > no
> > > >> >> exclusions for pre-existing conditions and where the insurance
> > > >> >> company
> > > >> >> can never drop coverage. In return I will agree to Tort reform, such
> > > >> >> that I will never expect an honest mistake to be equivalent to
> > > >> >> winning
> > > >> >> the lottery.
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> > > >> > Yeah....liberals are great at spending other people's money.
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> > > >> > -Greg
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> > > >> And banks, tobacco companies, auto manufacturers,
> > > >> health insurance companies, oil companies, mortgage
> > > >> companies, defense industry ... campanies are great at
> > > >> stealing other people's money. Where's my list? Did I
> > > >> forget anyone? How about fructose companies ... security
> > > >> companies ala Blackwater, wall street in general ...
> > > >> Oh yeah, Madison Avenue, who has created synicism
> > > >> and deep rooted fear in the basic honesty of the American
> > > >> people, especially in children who watch false adverstising...
> > > >> Did I forget media in general?
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> > > > All the ones you mention are ultimately accountable to the consumer.. You
> > > > have the choice whether you want to do business with them. Do you have
> > > > that
> > > > choice with your taxes? Who is government accountable to? If you think
> > > > the
> > > > voters, then consider why the government is growing 5% while business
> > > > and
> > > > personal revenues are stagnant or shrinking.
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> > > > -Greg
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> > > And the people who died in Bopol, India from Union
> > > Carbide are going to stop doing business. I guess. And
> > > the people who died in Ford Pintos, yeah they will stop
> > > doing business with Ford. And the thousands of people
> > > who die every year in hospitals from malpractice are
> > > definitely going to go somewhere in the next life. Them
> > > stupid people who expect for the government to protect
> > > them from innocent buisnesses ... And I'm pretty sure the
> > > people who were suckered into bad loans will not
> > > finance with the same companies ... well not for a few
> > > years after they partially recover from bankruptcy.
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> > > Yep, the American dream. Cheat your neighbors. up with
> > > corporations, lobby the government, unrestricted spending
> > > by coprs on political ads. It's the government's fault, not
> > > the corporations who own the government.
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> > The millions of people in the Soviet Union who died because the govt
> > took all the grain to Moscow and left them with nothing. The millions
> > murdered by the Khmer Rouges because they weren't the right "kind" of
> > people. How about all the people who died building Moscow's marvelous
> > subway! Govt control! The solution to all our problems!
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> > _____
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> > No offense buy I'm kinda focused on US government.
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> Look up their "solutions" to the "red indian" problem, and how well
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They worked out pretty well. The government wanted to exterminate the
Indians and they damn near did it. Not that that's relevant.
From: Don Kirkman on
It seems to me I heard somewhere that Dinosaur_Sr wrote in article
<7844688c-41f6-4862-8ee3-252f907c3299(a)15g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>:

>On Feb 17, 8:30�pm, "gray asphalt" <dontwr...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> "Dinosaur_Sr" <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote in message

>> The millions of people in the Soviet Union who died because the govt
>> took all the grain to Moscow and left them with nothing. The millions
>> murdered by the Khmer Rouges because they weren't the right "kind" of
>> people. How about all the people who died building Moscow's marvelous
>> subway! Govt control! The solution to all our problems!

>> No offense buy I'm kinda focused on US government.

>Look up their "solutions" to the "red indian" problem, and how well
>they worked out.

Well, we have to blame that on the previous administration. By the
time the Americans took over both the "red indian" problem and slavery
were full-blown government programs. It took us a while to work our
way out of the mess that was handed to us.
--
Don Kirkman
donsno2(a)charter.net
From: Carbon on
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 07:04:47 -0500, BAR wrote:
> In article <4b7c9c83$0$30935$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 20:02:54 -0500, BAR wrote:
>>> In article <4b7c1627$0$5110$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
>>> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 06:58:02 -0500, BAR wrote:
>>>>> In article <4b7b6ecb$0$4944$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
>>>>> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>>>>>> On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:58:48 -0500, William Clark wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BS, Jack, as per usual. The hospitals don't "absorb the cost",
>>>>>>> they recoup it by overcharging patients who do have insurance.
>>>>>>> In other words, they are allowed to tax you and me. Gosh, sounds
>>>>>>> like a public option, without the honesty or accountability.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can certainly vouch for that. I went to emergency last summer.
>>>>>> There were a lot of underclass unemployed looking people in the
>>>>>> waiting room. I talked to the doctor for one (1) minute. No
>>>>>> treatment was performed. The cost: around $500.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why didn't you go to a Doc-In-A-Box, it would have been cheaper.
>>>>> And, obviously you were not in a life threatening situation.
>>>>
>>>> At the time I wasn't sure it wasn't going to become an emergency.
>>>> And coming from a place that has a less corrupt healthcare system,
>>>> I had no idea I would be fucked to that extent.
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>>> If you went to the Doc-In-A-Box and it was an emergency they would
>>> have called 911 to send an ambulance to take you to the emergency
>>> room.
>>>
>>> You are the problem, not the solution.
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>> I thought I was going to have to have a scope put down my esophagus
>> to clear the obstruction. I sure as hell wasn't going to waste my
>> time on some mall doctor who wouldn't have had the proper equipment.
>> If you want to take chances like that, go right ahead.
>
> The best for Carbs and screw the smelly people in the waiting room.

FU.
From: Carbon on
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 05:19:27 +0000, assimilate wrote:
> On 17-Feb-2010, William Clark <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote:
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>>> How do you prevent people with no money from going to emergency
>>> rooms?
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>> Well, you do what Bertie wants, lock them out to die in the streets.
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> Bert wasn't the one complaining about them, it was your fellow elitist
> Carbs

I'm an elitist because I want universal healthcare?
From: Carbon on
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 06:56:36 -0500, BAR wrote:pretend otherwise.
> In article <4b7c98d0$0$21010$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 20:07:45 -0500, BAR wrote:
>>> In article <4b7c5d2c$0$4850$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
>>> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:58:20 -0800, dene wrote:
>>>>> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:4b7b6ecb$0$4944$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>>>>> On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:58:48 -0500, William Clark wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I can certainly vouch for that. I went to emergency last summer.
>>>>>> There were a lot of underclass unemployed looking people in the
>>>>>> waiting room. I talked to the doctor for one (1) minute. No
>>>>>> treatment was performed. The cost: around $500.
>>>>>
>>>>> Underclass? I thought liberal dogma teaches that "we're all the
>>>>> same."
>>>>
>>>> If I can smell them from across the waiting room then they are
>>>> clearly different from me. If they want to lay around all day and
>>>> be losers, that's great. I don't care. But I shouldn't have to get
>>>> stuck paying for them. That is exactly what is happening in this
>>>> broken system. Don't you think it's wrong?
>>>
>>> Don't you have compassion for your fellow man.
>>>
>>> Or, should there be two waiting rooms? One for the elite liberals
>>> and another for the rest of us?
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>> There should be a less corrupt healthcare system so I don't get stuck
>> paying for them.
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> You are a selfish pig. Where is your compassion for your fellow man
> who is less fortunate than you.

Spare me the bullshit. You don't care whether these people live or die.