From: Carbon on
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:30:41 -0500, BAR wrote:
> In article <4b7dcb52$0$27203$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 08:24:00 -0800, John B. wrote:
>>
>>> I don't wany my access to all the above to be dependent on my
>>> employment and how much my employer is willing to spend on health
>>> insurance. If I were to lose my job, I wouldn't be able to afford
>>> the medications I depend on. If I were to sell my house and take my
>>> kids out of college so I could afford to buy my own insurance
>>> policy, it wouldn't cover my meds because they would be deemed to be
>>> for a pre- existing condition. What's your solution to that, Bert?
>>
>> Don't get sick. And if you do, die quickly.
>
> Access to health care is not dependent upon employment.
>
> If you were better at negotiating pay with your employer and you did a
> better job saving money you would have enough money to pay for your
> health care. Instead you have abdicated your personal responsibility
> to someone else which has made you dependent upon their generosity and
> goodwill.
>
> When the teat is taken away you are lost and can't figure out where
> your next meal is coming from.

Thank you, but I've heard all this clueless propaganda before. I am in
favor of universal healthcare because it is cheaper and more humane. You
obviously do not know the first thing about it, and yet you are positive
that you're right.
From: John B. on
On Feb 18, 6:16 pm, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 05:18:15 +0000, assimilate wrote:
> > On 17-Feb-2010, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> Obviously, that totally misses the point. The point would be the
> >>>> systemic corruption that makes such gross overbilling an everyday
> >>>> event.
>
> >>> Stop whining.
>
> >> I should just allow myself to be raped like all you ideologues, huh?
>
> > Better that than I get raped by your Universal Healthcare.
>
> Please find any country on the planet with universal healthcare that has
> higher per capita healthcare costs than the United States. Go ahead,
> we'll wait.

And while you're at it, find an industrialized country whose health
care costs are as large a proportion of GDP as ours, or consume as
much of the federal budget as ours.
From: dene on

"Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4b7dcb52$0$27203$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 08:24:00 -0800, John B. wrote:

> Don't get sick. And if you do, die quickly.

AKA Obama's proposed medicare cuts.

-Greg


From: John B. on
On Feb 18, 7:30 pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> In article <4b7dcb52$0$27203$9a6e1...(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 08:24:00 -0800, John B. wrote:
> > > On Feb 17, 8:14 pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> > >> In article <4b7c5da2$0$4850$9a6e1...(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> > >> nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>
> > > I don't wany my access to all the above to be dependent on my
> > > employment and how much my employer is willing to spend on health
> > > insurance. If I were to lose my job, I wouldn't be able to afford the
> > > medications I depend on. If I were to sell my house and take my kids
> > > out of college so I could afford to buy my own insurance policy, it
> > > wouldn't cover my meds because they would be deemed to be for a pre-
> > > existing condition. What's your solution to that, Bert?
>
> > Don't get sick. And if you do, die quickly.
>
> Access to health care is not dependent upon employment.
>
> If you were better at negotiating pay with your employer and you did a
> better job saving money you would have enough money to pay for your
> health care. Instead you have abdicated your personal responsibility to
> someone else which has made you dependent upon their generosity and
> goodwill.
>
> When the teat is taken away you are lost and can't figure out where your
> next meal is coming from.

That is truly inane.
From: assimilate on

On 18-Feb-2010, "gray asphalt" <dontwrite(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> How can I have a narrow mind and a fat head
> at the same time? My wife says I have a huge
> ego. That wouldn't fit in a narrow mind.

The head is just the case for the brain, the mind is neither of the two, so
chew on that for a while.

--
bill-o