From: Carbon on
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 07:12:28 -0500, BAR wrote:
> In article <4b7de8c5$0$4967$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:30:41 -0500, BAR wrote:
>>> In article <4b7dcb52$0$27203$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
>>> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 08:24:00 -0800, John B. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't wany my access to all the above to be dependent on my
>>>>> employment and how much my employer is willing to spend on health
>>>>> insurance. If I were to lose my job, I wouldn't be able to afford
>>>>> the medications I depend on. If I were to sell my house and take
>>>>> my kids out of college so I could afford to buy my own insurance
>>>>> policy, it wouldn't cover my meds because they would be deemed to
>>>>> be for a pre- existing condition. What's your solution to that,
>>>>> Bert?
>>>>
>>>> Don't get sick. And if you do, die quickly.
>>>
>>> Access to health care is not dependent upon employment.
>>>
>>> If you were better at negotiating pay with your employer and you did
>>> a better job saving money you would have enough money to pay for
>>> your health care. Instead you have abdicated your personal
>>> responsibility to someone else which has made you dependent upon
>>> their generosity and goodwill.
>>>
>>> When the teat is taken away you are lost and can't figure out where
>>> your next meal is coming from.
>>
>> Thank you, but I've heard all this clueless propaganda before. I am
>> in favor of universal healthcare because it is cheaper and more
>> humane. You obviously do not know the first thing about it, and yet
>> you are positive that you're right.
>
> If you want Universal Health Care there are many countries around the
> world that offer it and there is no one stopping you from emigrating
> to any of them except you.

I win yet again.
From: assimilate on

On 19-Feb-2010, "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> > They worked out pretty well. The government wanted to exterminate the
> > Indians and they damn near did it. Not that that's relevant.
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Smallpox did much of the damage.
> >
> > -Greg
>
> Smallpox was spread to Indian tribes by white people.

not out of a wish to destroy them though.

--
bill-o
From: assimilate on

On 19-Feb-2010, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

> I am in favor of universal healthcare mainly
> because it is cheaper,

no matter how often you say this, it will never be true.

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bill-o
From: assimilate on

On 19-Feb-2010, "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> Every industrialized country on earth offers universal health care
> except the U.S., yet the U.S. is the only one of them that's embroiled
> in a debate about health care.

so since every one else jumped off the bridge we should too?

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bill-o
From: Carbon on
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 05:22:00 +0000, assimilate wrote:
> On 19-Feb-2010, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> I am in favor of universal healthcare mainly because it is cheaper,
>
> no matter how often you say this, it will never be true.

The US spends more per capita on healthcare than any other country in
the world. Average life expectancy in other first world countries with
universal healthcare is much better than the US. Both of these stats can
easily be verified. I can only wonder at the strength of your
fanaticism.