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From: BAR on 20 Feb 2010 07:36 In article <4b7f11ba$0$4957$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > > On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 07:05:47 -0500, BAR wrote: > > In article <4b7de565$0$4981$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > > nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > >> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:39:22 -0500, BAR wrote: > >>> In article <4b7ddbe7$0$4984$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > >>> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > >>>> > >>>> The disdain came later, when I realized that I was getting stuck > >>>> paying for them. Be honest for once: don't you resent having to pay > >>>> through the nose for these people? Wouldn't it be better to have > >>>> them pay at least some of their healthcare costs as taxes? > >>> > >>> No, I want them to open up their wallets and pay for the services > >>> they receive. Taxes are just a way of sharing expenses. > >> > >> Yes! Finally. Taxes paid on beer and cigarettes by these people would > >> offset costs incurred in other areas. Like, oh, I don't know... > >> healthcare. You can slap yourself in the forehead now. I'll wait. > > > > Your true colors are shining through. It's too bad they are the darker > > shades of hate, discontent and disdain for your fellow man. > > I love how you're trying to take the high ground after your endless > little rants about your wonderful sink or swim philosophy of life. If it > were up to you, you hypocrite, they'd all be left to die in the street. You are too funny. You complained about the smelly people and now you are being teased about it and you are upset. Get over yourself.
From: BAR on 20 Feb 2010 07:38 In article <4b7f149b$0$4963$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > > On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 07:12:28 -0500, BAR wrote: > > In article <4b7de8c5$0$4967$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > > nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > >> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:30:41 -0500, BAR wrote: > >>> In article <4b7dcb52$0$27203$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > >>> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > >>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 08:24:00 -0800, John B. wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> I don't wany my access to all the above to be dependent on my > >>>>> employment and how much my employer is willing to spend on health > >>>>> insurance. If I were to lose my job, I wouldn't be able to afford > >>>>> the medications I depend on. If I were to sell my house and take > >>>>> my kids out of college so I could afford to buy my own insurance > >>>>> policy, it wouldn't cover my meds because they would be deemed to > >>>>> be for a pre- existing condition. What's your solution to that, > >>>>> Bert? > >>>> > >>>> Don't get sick. And if you do, die quickly. > >>> > >>> Access to health care is not dependent upon employment. > >>> > >>> If you were better at negotiating pay with your employer and you did > >>> a better job saving money you would have enough money to pay for > >>> your health care. Instead you have abdicated your personal > >>> responsibility to someone else which has made you dependent upon > >>> their generosity and goodwill. > >>> > >>> When the teat is taken away you are lost and can't figure out where > >>> your next meal is coming from. > >> > >> Thank you, but I've heard all this clueless propaganda before. I am > >> in favor of universal healthcare because it is cheaper and more > >> humane. You obviously do not know the first thing about it, and yet > >> you are positive that you're right. > > > > If you want Universal Health Care there are many countries around the > > world that offer it and there is no one stopping you from emigrating > > to any of them except you. > > I win yet again. Good, take your ball and go home. We who are 100% invested in the USA do not want what you who are just a guest here want.
From: BAR on 20 Feb 2010 07:45 In article <clark-E60A81.08300819022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says... > > In article <MPG.25e8527b23b546e5989c0e(a)news.giganews.com>, > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > In article <wclark2-170A03.19360718022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > > state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... > > > > > > In article <MPG.25e7a4547627fe56989bff(a)news.giganews.com>, > > > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > > > > In article <4b7dca63$0$32616$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > > > > nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 05:18:15 +0000, assimilate wrote: > > > > > > On 17-Feb-2010, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Obviously, that totally misses the point. The point would be the > > > > > >>>> systemic corruption that makes such gross overbilling an everyday > > > > > >>>> event. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Stop whining. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I should just allow myself to be raped like all you ideologues, huh? > > > > > > > > > > > > Better that than I get raped by your Universal Healthcare. > > > > > > > > > > Please find any country on the planet with universal healthcare that has > > > > > higher per capita healthcare costs than the United States. Go ahead, > > > > > we'll wait. > > > > > > > > Please find a country on the planet that has higher cancer survival > > > > rates. > > > > > > Try Scandinavia, for a start. And for a fraction of the cost. > > > > Cite! > > http://tiny.cc/UkBtY Interesting site. I like the concept. I still questions the raw data.
From: BAR on 20 Feb 2010 08:03 In article <hvCfn.818$BD2.448(a)newsfe14.iad>, dontwrite(a)gmail.com says... > > Oh yeah ... and I suppose "manifest destiny" > was an excuse for imperialism. I'm sure the > Mexicans weren't bothered at all by the theft of > Texas, and how much other land? War or the threat of war has determined the political and national boundaries of kingdoms and countries. One of the penalties of losing armed conflict is that your military will may be destroyed and you may lose some or all of your territory. > So your arguement is that since government is > bad, bug business is good? And allowing big > business to dictate to government is a good > thing? Big business employs people and provides them with the money they need to live. Big business also provides the government with a pool of working people from which to extract money in the form of taxes. > I'll go with Ross Perot on these issues. Remember > him, the guy who critisized General Motors for > their hubris and unwillingness to adapt and their > lack of concern for workers ... Well Gm certainly > has prospered and if they could just get government > to take back the bailout money, they'd be even better. GM's money was good enough for H Ross to put in his pocket. $2.5 billion was some real money back in 1984. I don't suppose you ever worked for H Ross either. I was interviewed by the EDS and was told that I would have to shave my mustache and get rid of my gray suits if I accepted the offer. The USMCR let me keep my mustache.
From: Moderate on 20 Feb 2010 08:30
"BAR" <screw(a)you.com> wrote in message news:MPG.25e9a7b64ddbbf34989c15(a)news.giganews.com... > In article <hvCfn.818$BD2.448(a)newsfe14.iad>, dontwrite(a)gmail.com says... >> >> Oh yeah ... and I suppose "manifest destiny" >> was an excuse for imperialism. I'm sure the >> Mexicans weren't bothered at all by the theft of >> Texas, and how much other land? > > War or the threat of war has determined the political and national > boundaries of kingdoms and countries. > > One of the penalties of losing armed conflict is that your military will > may be destroyed and you may lose some or all of your territory. > >> So your arguement is that since government is >> bad, bug business is good? And allowing big >> business to dictate to government is a good >> thing? > > Big business employs people and provides them with the money they need > to live. Big business also provides the government with a pool of > working people from which to extract money in the form of taxes. > >> I'll go with Ross Perot on these issues. Remember >> him, the guy who critisized General Motors for >> their hubris and unwillingness to adapt and their >> lack of concern for workers ... Well Gm certainly >> has prospered and if they could just get government >> to take back the bailout money, they'd be even better. > > GM's money was good enough for H Ross to put in his pocket. $2.5 billion > was some real money back in 1984. > > I don't suppose you ever worked for H Ross either. I was interviewed by > the EDS and was told that I would have to shave my mustache and get rid > of my gray suits if I accepted the offer. The USMCR let me keep my > mustache. My father worked for EDS. Perot would call him at 2:00 a.m. to talk shop. He didn't have much good to say about Perot. |