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From: William Clark on 20 Feb 2010 08:49 In article <MPG.25e9a389bf62b5e2989c14(a)news.giganews.com>, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <clark-E60A81.08300819022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says... > > > > In article <MPG.25e8527b23b546e5989c0e(a)news.giganews.com>, > > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > > In article <wclark2-170A03.19360718022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > > > state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... > > > > > > > > In article <MPG.25e7a4547627fe56989bff(a)news.giganews.com>, > > > > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > In article <4b7dca63$0$32616$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > > > > > nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 05:18:15 +0000, assimilate wrote: > > > > > > > On 17-Feb-2010, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Obviously, that totally misses the point. The point would be > > > > > > >>>> the > > > > > > >>>> systemic corruption that makes such gross overbilling an > > > > > > >>>> everyday > > > > > > >>>> event. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Stop whining. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> I should just allow myself to be raped like all you ideologues, > > > > > > >> huh? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Better that than I get raped by your Universal Healthcare. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please find any country on the planet with universal healthcare > > > > > > that has > > > > > > higher per capita healthcare costs than the United States. Go > > > > > > ahead, > > > > > > we'll wait. > > > > > > > > > > Please find a country on the planet that has higher cancer survival > > > > > rates. > > > > > > > > Try Scandinavia, for a start. And for a fraction of the cost. > > > > > > Cite! > > > > http://tiny.cc/UkBtY > > Interesting site. I like the concept. > > I still questions the raw data. Of course you do.
From: John B. on 20 Feb 2010 09:43 On Feb 20, 12:26 am, assimil...(a)borg.org wrote: > On 19-Feb-2010, "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Every industrialized country on earth offers universal health care > > except the U.S., yet the U.S. is the only one of them that's embroiled > > in a debate about health care. > > so since every one else jumped off the bridge we should too? > > -- > bill-o The fact that other OECD countries are not having a civil war about health care the way we are kind of suggests that they don't think they've jumped off a bridge.
From: Carbon on 20 Feb 2010 10:39 On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 08:03:44 -0500, BAR wrote: > In article <hvCfn.818$BD2.448(a)newsfe14.iad>, dontwrite(a)gmail.com > says... > >> Oh yeah ... and I suppose "manifest destiny" was an excuse for >> imperialism. I'm sure the Mexicans weren't bothered at all by the >> theft of Texas, and how much other land? > > War or the threat of war has determined the political and national > boundaries of kingdoms and countries. > > One of the penalties of losing armed conflict is that your military > will may be destroyed and you may lose some or all of your territory. Ok, here's a possible future scenario. The US dollar continues to decline until it becomes nearly worthless in international trade. Cut off from world markets, the economy collapses. Unemployment skyrockets. There is widespread civil unrest. Foreign interests come in with their stronger currencies and buy up everything worth having. At that point the country will have been effectively taken over by foreign interests. Say this actually happens. Will you still be sharing your smug little stories about the survival of the fittest? What if you're the one on the losing end?
From: Carbon on 20 Feb 2010 10:44 On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 07:38:22 -0500, BAR wrote: > In article <4b7f149b$0$4963$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... >> On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 07:12:28 -0500, BAR wrote: >>> In article <4b7de8c5$0$4967$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, >>> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... >>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:30:41 -0500, BAR wrote: >>>>> In article <4b7dcb52$0$27203$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, >>>>> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... >>>>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 08:24:00 -0800, John B. wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't wany my access to all the above to be dependent on my >>>>>>> employment and how much my employer is willing to spend on >>>>>>> health insurance. If I were to lose my job, I wouldn't be able >>>>>>> to afford the medications I depend on. If I were to sell my >>>>>>> house and take my kids out of college so I could afford to buy >>>>>>> my own insurance policy, it wouldn't cover my meds because they >>>>>>> would be deemed to be for a pre- existing condition. What's your >>>>>>> solution to that, Bert? >>>>>> >>>>>> Don't get sick. And if you do, die quickly. >>>>> >>>>> Access to health care is not dependent upon employment. >>>>> >>>>> If you were better at negotiating pay with your employer and you >>>>> did a better job saving money you would have enough money to pay >>>>> for your health care. Instead you have abdicated your personal >>>>> responsibility to someone else which has made you dependent upon >>>>> their generosity and goodwill. >>>>> >>>>> When the teat is taken away you are lost and can't figure out >>>>> where your next meal is coming from. >>>> >>>> Thank you, but I've heard all this clueless propaganda before. I am >>>> in favor of universal healthcare because it is cheaper and more >>>> humane. You obviously do not know the first thing about it, and >>>> yet you are positive that you're right. >>> >>> If you want Universal Health Care there are many countries around >>> the world that offer it and there is no one stopping you from >>> emigrating to any of them except you. >> >> I win yet again. > > Good, take your ball and go home. > > We who are 100% invested in the USA do not want what you who are just > a guest here want. Aw, you're just saying that because your poor brain won't cough up anything better.
From: BAR on 20 Feb 2010 11:35
In article <4b80024b$0$4873$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > > On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 08:03:44 -0500, BAR wrote: > > In article <hvCfn.818$BD2.448(a)newsfe14.iad>, dontwrite(a)gmail.com > > says... > > > >> Oh yeah ... and I suppose "manifest destiny" was an excuse for > >> imperialism. I'm sure the Mexicans weren't bothered at all by the > >> theft of Texas, and how much other land? > > > > War or the threat of war has determined the political and national > > boundaries of kingdoms and countries. > > > > One of the penalties of losing armed conflict is that your military > > will may be destroyed and you may lose some or all of your territory. > > Ok, here's a possible future scenario. The US dollar continues to > decline until it becomes nearly worthless in international trade. Cut > off from world markets, the economy collapses. Unemployment skyrockets. > There is widespread civil unrest. Foreign interests come in with their > stronger currencies and buy up everything worth having. At that point > the country will have been effectively taken over by foreign interests. > > Say this actually happens. Will you still be sharing your smug little > stories about the survival of the fittest? What if you're the one on the > losing end? If you had been paying attention I have been stating, for several years, that this is a possibility in the future. It is the next evolution fron nation states to business states. Nations do not survive based upon the personality of their current leader, they survive based upon their wealth and from wealth comes power. The fittest do survive. The weak and timid tiger never mates, his blood line dies out. I've been on the losing end of mergers and acquisitions? I been on the losing end of physical altercations. You either cower in fear or you stand up and fight again. I believe that you will be one of the people who will cower in fear and when the come to physically take you away you will be screaming that it isn't fair. |