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From: Carbon on 21 Feb 2010 09:16 On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 08:21:52 -0500, BAR wrote: > In article <c25cede8-f26f-4fe0-b9de-5587f383cb03 > @t42g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says... >> On Feb 20, 7:12 pm, assimil...(a)borg.org wrote: >>> On 20-Feb-2010, "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> The fact that other OECD countries are not having a civil war about >>>> health care the way we are kind of suggests that they don't think >>>> they've jumped off a bridge. >>> >>> What they think about their situation is irrelevant. >> >> And I thought you were smart. > > The French built the Maginot Line. Should England and Canada done the > same thing after WWI? The French also built a much superior healthcare system than the US did.
From: Carbon on 21 Feb 2010 09:20 On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 08:15:21 -0500, BAR wrote: > In article <4b802399$0$4892$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > >> This guy is not some permanently unemployed loser. He is a competent >> IT professional. But there is a recession on and he couldn't find >> work. It seems pretty obvious to me that if he had access to >> reasonable healthcare he would have been able to go to the doctor >> when the symptoms first appeared. It surely would have been cheaper >> to treat then as well. There would be one less medical bankruptcy. >> Our premiums would be lower. > > Did you ask him why ignored the cyst? Being in a field where problems > can go from very simple to full scale catastrophe quickly, I would put > the onus on your friend for his medical problems. He has kids. He nearly lost his house. Would you put health insurance ahead of keeping a roof over your family's head and food on the table? Be honest.
From: Carbon on 21 Feb 2010 09:21 On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 08:15:21 -0500, BAR wrote: > In article <4b802399$0$4892$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > >> Bert, this guy could be you. It could be one of your friends. The >> current system is unjust. > > Sure, it could be anyone. But, I still don't see the solution being > Universal Health Care. That's because you're an ideologue.
From: Carbon on 21 Feb 2010 09:23 On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 05:55:06 +0000, assimilate wrote: > On 20-Feb-2010, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > >>>> The fact that other OECD countries are not having a civil war about >>>> health care the way we are kind of suggests that they don't think >>>> they've jumped off a bridge. >>> >>> What they think about their situation is irrelevant. >> >> That's insane, a Bertism. > > Please tell me how the Eurpean's opinion of anything is relevant to our > healthcare debate. Because their healthcare systems are much better than this one. But what I care about are stats, such as healthcare cost as a percentage of GDP and average life expectancy.
From: Carbon on 21 Feb 2010 09:26
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 06:00:08 +0000, assimilate wrote: > On 20-Feb-2010, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > >> The system absolutely needs an engine replacement if guys like him >> are falling through the cracks. Even if he survives he will be dead >> broke and won't be able to get insurance because of his now >> pre-existing condition. He's a stand-up guy and he's fucked. It's not >> right. > > Your premise, that some "reformed" system of the future could prevent > such things is false. There isn't a system anywhere that will catch > everyone. It's "false" is it? Explain yourself. |