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From: BAR on 21 Feb 2010 11:39 In article <4b815d84$0$4850$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > > On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 10:59:01 -0500, BAR wrote: > > In article <4b81550b$0$4862$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > > nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > >>> > >>>> You're insane. This health denial system you're so fond of is > >>>> probably going to let this guy die. But not before spending > >>>> thousands on chemo for something that probably could have been > >>>> treated much less expensively months ago. > >>> > >>> I like how you have started to call it the "health denial system" it > >>> is cute, it is not effective but, it is cute. > >>> > >>> Your friend should have engaged the medical system earlier. He has > >>> no one to blame except himself. As the statics show the sooner a > >>> person is treated for cancer the greater the survival rate. > >> > >> Perhaps there should be armed guards at the hospitals to keep the > >> sick away. Those who would cost the healthcare system too much money > >> could be hauled out back and shot. Problem solved, eh Bert? After > >> all, the poor have no one to blame but themselves. > > > > Not to keep the sick away, just the smelly people out? You know the > > ones you found offensive when you last visited the ER. > > You almost never say anything prescriptive, about what should be done. > Here is your chance. What should happen with the hundreds of thousands > of people like my friend, who lost their jobs and insurance in the > recession and then became sick. Should they be forcibly removed from the > hospitals and left to die, to keep your taxes and insurance premiums as > low as possible? Should they be shot in the back of the head, since that > solution is even cheaper? Please, impress us with your humanity. This isn't about me it is about them and the choices they made in their life. They made choices on how they wanted to live. They should have done a better job of living within or below their means and planning for contingencies. Can you put your hands on $100,000 within 24 hours without having to obtain a loan, cash out IRAs or a 401k? If no, you need to get in that position ASAP.
From: Carbon on 21 Feb 2010 12:13 On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:39:53 -0500, BAR wrote: > In article <4b815d84$0$4850$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... >> On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 10:59:01 -0500, BAR wrote: >>> In article <4b81550b$0$4862$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, >>> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... >>> >>>> Perhaps there should be armed guards at the hospitals to keep the >>>> sick away. Those who would cost the healthcare system too much >>>> money could be hauled out back and shot. Problem solved, eh Bert? >>>> After all, the poor have no one to blame but themselves. >>> >>> Not to keep the sick away, just the smelly people out? You know the >>> ones you found offensive when you last visited the ER. >> >> You almost never say anything prescriptive, about what should be >> done. Here is your chance. What should happen with the hundreds of >> thousands of people like my friend, who lost their jobs and insurance >> in the recession and then became sick. Should they be forcibly >> removed from the hospitals and left to die, to keep your taxes and >> insurance premiums as low as possible? Should they be shot in the >> back of the head, since that solution is even cheaper? Please, >> impress us with your humanity. > > This isn't about me it is about them and the choices they made in > their life. They made choices on how they wanted to live. They should > have done a better job of living within or below their means and > planning for contingencies. > > Can you put your hands on $100,000 within 24 hours without having to > obtain a loan, cash out IRAs or a 401k? If no, you need to get in that > position ASAP. So... other than the ludicrous suggestion that everyone suddenly become wealthier, you have nothing. I guess that's why you ducked the question. I ask again, what should happen millions without health insurance if they develop an expensive disease? Should they be left to die? A simple yes or no will suffice.
From: Howard Brazee on 21 Feb 2010 13:30 On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 08:21:52 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: >The French built the Maginot Line. Should England and Canada done the >same thing after WWI? In the English Channel and Atlantic ocean? -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: Howard Brazee on 21 Feb 2010 13:31 On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 21:16:02 -0500, Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote: >>People under social security also buy private health insurance. And >>do. It doesn't mean they are willing to think about getting rid of >>their social security. > >It's people on Medicare that have to buy supplemental insurance >because Medicare is inadequate. What they buy isn't insurance though. It doesn't pay for disasters, it pays for deductibles. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: Howard Brazee on 21 Feb 2010 13:34
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 09:34:14 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: >> He has kids. He nearly lost his house. Would you put health insurance >> ahead of keeping a roof over your family's head and food on the table? >> Be honest. > >He made choices, he has to live with the choices he made. > >I make choices and I will have to live with the choices I make. One choice I have made is to give others money so that when I have medical care needs that I can't pay for, others will pay for them. That is socialized medical care - whether I give the money directly to insurance companies or whether I give it directly to the government. The details don't change this. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison |