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From: Dinosaur_Sr on 21 Feb 2010 15:25 On Feb 18, 4:58 pm, "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 18, 3:58 pm, Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 17, 8:30 pm, "gray asphalt" <dontwr...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > "Dinosaur_Sr" <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote in message > > > >news:f61d6fbf-d4e5-42c5-ad46-7dd4ce8418e3(a)k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com.... > > > On Feb 17, 5:00 pm, "gray asphalt" <dontwr...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote in message > > > > >news:7u300eFgdqU1(a)mid.individual.net... > > > > > > "gray asphalt" <dontwr...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > > > >news:d7Xen.8$Ee1.4(a)newsfe12.iad... > > > > > >> "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote in message > > > > >>news:7tnb50Fs8nU1(a)mid.individual.net... > > > > > >> > "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > > > > >> >news:4b75e854$0$21064$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > > > > >> >> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:27:03 -0500, BAR wrote: > > > > >> >> > In article <oy0dn.144819$kQ5.41...(a)newsfe08.iad>, > > > > >> >> > dontwr...(a)gmail.com > > > > > >> >> Great! I'd like healthcare that covers me for every possible illness > > > > >> >> with no upfront co-pays at less than 2/3 of what I'm paying now, > > > > >> >> with > > > > > no > > > > >> >> exclusions for pre-existing conditions and where the insurance > > > > >> >> company > > > > >> >> can never drop coverage. In return I will agree to Tort reform, such > > > > >> >> that I will never expect an honest mistake to be equivalent to > > > > >> >> winning > > > > >> >> the lottery. > > > > > >> > Yeah....liberals are great at spending other people's money. > > > > > >> > -Greg > > > > > >> And banks, tobacco companies, auto manufacturers, > > > > >> health insurance companies, oil companies, mortgage > > > > >> companies, defense industry ... campanies are great at > > > > >> stealing other people's money. Where's my list? Did I > > > > >> forget anyone? How about fructose companies ... security > > > > >> companies ala Blackwater, wall street in general ... > > > > >> Oh yeah, Madison Avenue, who has created synicism > > > > >> and deep rooted fear in the basic honesty of the American > > > > >> people, especially in children who watch false adverstising... > > > > >> Did I forget media in general? > > > > > > All the ones you mention are ultimately accountable to the consumer. You > > > > > have the choice whether you want to do business with them. Do you have > > > > > that > > > > > choice with your taxes? Who is government accountable to? If you think > > > > > the > > > > > voters, then consider why the government is growing 5% while business > > > > > and > > > > > personal revenues are stagnant or shrinking. > > > > > > -Greg > > > > > And the people who died in Bopol, India from Union > > > > Carbide are going to stop doing business. I guess. And > > > > the people who died in Ford Pintos, yeah they will stop > > > > doing business with Ford. And the thousands of people > > > > who die every year in hospitals from malpractice are > > > > definitely going to go somewhere in the next life. Them > > > > stupid people who expect for the government to protect > > > > them from innocent buisnesses ... And I'm pretty sure the > > > > people who were suckered into bad loans will not > > > > finance with the same companies ... well not for a few > > > > years after they partially recover from bankruptcy. > > > > > Yep, the American dream. Cheat your neighbors. up with > > > > corporations, lobby the government, unrestricted spending > > > > by coprs on political ads. It's the government's fault, not > > > > the corporations who own the government. > > > > The millions of people in the Soviet Union who died because the govt > > > took all the grain to Moscow and left them with nothing. The millions > > > murdered by the Khmer Rouges because they weren't the right "kind" of > > > people. How about all the people who died building Moscow's marvelous > > > subway! Govt control! The solution to all our problems! > > > > _____ > > > > No offense buy I'm kinda focused on US government. > > > Look up their "solutions" to the "red indian" problem, and how well > > they worked out.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > They worked out pretty well. The government wanted to exterminate the > Indians and they damn near did it. Not that that's relevant. That's not how they pitched it though. They were going to give them their dignity...and a homeland of sorts, Indiana, Oklahoma....but in the end they got it in the end! Sorta like health care :^)
From: Dinosaur_Sr on 21 Feb 2010 15:26 On Feb 18, 5:02 pm, Don Kirkman <dons...(a)charter.net> wrote: > It seems to me I heard somewhere that Dinosaur_Sr wrote in article > <7844688c-41f6-4862-8ee3-252f907c3...(a)15g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>: > > >On Feb 17, 8:30 pm, "gray asphalt" <dontwr...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> "Dinosaur_Sr" <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote in message > >> The millions of people in the Soviet Union who died because the govt > >> took all the grain to Moscow and left them with nothing. The millions > >> murdered by the Khmer Rouges because they weren't the right "kind" of > >> people. How about all the people who died building Moscow's marvelous > >> subway! Govt control! The solution to all our problems! > >> No offense buy I'm kinda focused on US government. > >Look up their "solutions" to the "red indian" problem, and how well > >they worked out. > > Well, we have to blame that on the previous administration. By the > time the Americans took over both the "red indian" problem and slavery > were full-blown government programs. It took us a while to work our > way out of the mess that was handed to us. > -- > Don Kirkman > dons...(a)charter.net How we handle the problems we are given is not the fault of those who came before. A lame excuse of underacheivers.
From: Dinosaur_Sr on 21 Feb 2010 15:27 On Feb 18, 6:16 pm, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 05:18:15 +0000, assimilate wrote: > > On 17-Feb-2010, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > > >>>> Obviously, that totally misses the point. The point would be the > >>>> systemic corruption that makes such gross overbilling an everyday > >>>> event. > > >>> Stop whining. > > >> I should just allow myself to be raped like all you ideologues, huh? > > > Better that than I get raped by your Universal Healthcare. > > Please find any country on the planet with universal healthcare that has > higher per capita healthcare costs than the United States. Go ahead, > we'll wait. The govt dictates costs and service levels in those countries. In the US people can choose from a free market.
From: Dinosaur_Sr on 21 Feb 2010 15:29 On Feb 18, 8:17 pm, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:20:38 -0500, BAR wrote: > > In article <4b7dc9b0$0$4949$9a6e1...(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > > nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > >> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 06:56:36 -0500, BAR wrote:pretend otherwise. > >>> In article <4b7c98d0$0$21010$9a6e1...(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > >>> nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > >>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 20:07:45 -0500, BAR wrote: > >>>>> In article <4b7c5d2c$0$4850$9a6e1...(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > >>>>> nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > >>>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:58:20 -0800, dene wrote: > >>>>>>> "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>>news:4b7b6ecb$0$4944$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > >>>>>>>> On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:58:48 -0500, William Clark wrote: > > >>>>>>>> I can certainly vouch for that. I went to emergency last > >>>>>>>> summer. There were a lot of underclass unemployed looking > >>>>>>>> people in the waiting room. I talked to the doctor for one (1) > >>>>>>>> minute. No treatment was performed. The cost: around $500. > > >>>>>>> Underclass? I thought liberal dogma teaches that "we're all the > >>>>>>> same." > > >>>>>> If I can smell them from across the waiting room then they are > >>>>>> clearly different from me. If they want to lay around all day and > >>>>>> be losers, that's great. I don't care. But I shouldn't have to > >>>>>> get stuck paying for them. That is exactly what is happening in > >>>>>> this broken system. Don't you think it's wrong? > > >>>>> Don't you have compassion for your fellow man. > > >>>>> Or, should there be two waiting rooms? One for the elite liberals > >>>>> and another for the rest of us? > > >>>> There should be a less corrupt healthcare system so I don't get > >>>> stuck paying for them. > > >>> You are a selfish pig. Where is your compassion for your fellow man > >>> who is less fortunate than you. > > >> Spare me the bullshit. You don't care whether these people live or > >> die. > > > Yes, I do care if they live or die. I just don't want to have to > > support them for the rest of my life. I want to teach them to support > > themselves. > > You want to teach them, do you? That is truly funny. > > If universal healthcare provided healthcare for less total cost than > private healthcare plus taxes, would it still be a bad thing? Cost is not the important issue. Accessibility is more important. Why should I have my health care reduced to some common denominator to satisfy the govts desire to give free healthcare to deadbeats?
From: Dinosaur_Sr on 21 Feb 2010 15:30
On Feb 18, 8:52 pm, "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 18, 6:16 pm, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 05:18:15 +0000, assimilate wrote: > > > On 17-Feb-2010, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > > > >>>> Obviously, that totally misses the point. The point would be the > > >>>> systemic corruption that makes such gross overbilling an everyday > > >>>> event. > > > >>> Stop whining. > > > >> I should just allow myself to be raped like all you ideologues, huh? > > > > Better that than I get raped by your Universal Healthcare. > > > Please find any country on the planet with universal healthcare that has > > higher per capita healthcare costs than the United States. Go ahead, > > we'll wait. > > And while you're at it, find an industrialized country whose health > care costs are as large a proportion of GDP as ours, or consume as > much of the federal budget as ours. Why is the cost such a big deal to you? Why does health care have to be reduced to a common denominator? |