From: William Clark on
In article <9p01o5lhceo0fs5tcljk0moihhhke141tv(a)4ax.com>,
Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 06:43:42 -0800 (PST), "John B."
> <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >The fact that other OECD countries are not having a civil war about
> >health care the way we are kind of suggests that they don't think
> >they've jumped off a bridge.
>
> In the UK 11% of the population has private health insurance. Why do
> you think they choose to pay for something that they can already get
> for free? Rich Canadians, including government ministers, come to the
> US for health care. Why do you suppose they do that?

Sorry, Jack, it is less than 8%, and it is generally used as a top-up
for services not covered by the NHS, such as elective cosmetic surgery,
etc. And it is <8% in spite of the Thatcher government desperately
trying to push people out of the NHS into private insurance.

Better luck next time.
From: William Clark on
In article <MPG.25eb000fdb076ece989c22(a)news.giganews.com>,
BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:

> In article <9p01o5lhceo0fs5tcljk0moihhhke141tv(a)4ax.com>,
> xsleeper(a)aol.com says...
> >
> > On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 06:43:42 -0800 (PST), "John B."
> > <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >The fact that other OECD countries are not having a civil war about
> > >health care the way we are kind of suggests that they don't think
> > >they've jumped off a bridge.
> >
> > In the UK 11% of the population has private health insurance. Why do
> > you think they choose to pay for something that they can already get
> > for free? Rich Canadians, including government ministers, come to the
> > US for health care. Why do you suppose they do that?
>
> Because the system in the UK does not function as intended. People get
> sick and need medical attention now, not at a time when it is cost
> effective for the government.

You are suddenly an expert on the UK? Obviously not, because your
explanation is wrong. You might want to read the following before you
misinterpret the British psyche again.

"Survey of the general public's views on NHS system reform in England"
(PDF). BMA. 2007-06-01.

http://www.bma.org.uk/ap.nsf/AttachmentsByTitle/PDFnhssystreform2007/$FIL
E/48751Surveynhsreform.pdf.
From: William Clark on
In article <d4v2o5h854n6ujn2fi2uvkvfe9kbbf1s5c(a)4ax.com>,
Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 08:32:52 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <9p01o5lhceo0fs5tcljk0moihhhke141tv(a)4ax.com>,
> >xsleeper(a)aol.com says...
> >>
> >> On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 06:43:42 -0800 (PST), "John B."
> >> <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >The fact that other OECD countries are not having a civil war about
> >> >health care the way we are kind of suggests that they don't think
> >> >they've jumped off a bridge.
> >>
> >> In the UK 11% of the population has private health insurance. Why do
> >> you think they choose to pay for something that they can already get
> >> for free? Rich Canadians, including government ministers, come to the
> >> US for health care. Why do you suppose they do that?
> >
> >Because the system in the UK does not function as intended. People get
> >sick and need medical attention now, not at a time when it is cost
> >effective for the government.
>
>
> At least if you're wealthy in the UK you have access to a private
> system that will spare you from the NHS. In Canada, you have no
> choice but to come to the US because private insurance is outlawed.
> for anything that is covered by the Canadian system.

Why would you want to be "spared" from the NHS? This is just more of
your blind, wingnut, BS, Jack. Given that you have never used it, you
are simply taking out your rear.
From: William Clark on
In article <zT_fn.31454$OX4.11717(a)newsfe25.iad>, assimilate(a)borg.org
wrote:

> On 20-Feb-2010, "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >
> > > > Every industrialized country on earth offers universal health care
> > > > except the U.S., yet the U.S. is the only one of them that's embroiled
> > > > in a debate about health care.
> > >
> > > so since every one else jumped off the bridge we should too?
> > >
> > > --
> > > bill-o
> >
> > The fact that other OECD countries are not having a civil war about
> > health care the way we are kind of suggests that they don't think
> > they've jumped off a bridge.
>
> What they think about their situation is irrelevant.

What they DO is important. They do it better than us, apparently.
From: William Clark on
In article <MPG.25eafd7a38b61e3b989c21(a)news.giganews.com>,
BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:

> In article <c25cede8-f26f-4fe0-b9de-5587f383cb03
> @t42g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says...
> >
> > On Feb 20, 7:12�pm, assimil...(a)borg.org wrote:
> > > On 20-Feb-2010, "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > > > Every industrialized country on earth offers universal health care
> > > > > > except the U.S., yet the U.S. is the only one of them that's
> > > > > > embroiled
> > > > > > in a debate about health care.
> > >
> > > > > so since every one else jumped off the bridge we should too?
> > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > bill-o
> > >
> > > > The fact that other OECD countries are not having a civil war about
> > > > health care the way we are kind of suggests that they don't think
> > > > they've jumped off a bridge.
> > >
> > > What they think about their situation is irrelevant.
> > >
> > > --
> > > bill-o
> >
> > And I thought you were smart.
>
> The French built the Maginot Line. Should England and Canada done the
> same thing after WWI?

Er, It's called the English Channel, Bertie, and you can't just drive
around the end of it.