From: assimilate on 21 Feb 2010 21:50
On 21-Feb-2010, Don Kirkman <donsno2(a)charter.net> wrote:
> Or it could be called Christianity: Acts 4:32, 34-35: "Now the
> company of those who believed were of one heart and soul, and no one
> said that any of the things which he possessed was his own, but they
> had everything in common. . . . There was not a needy person among
> them, for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and
> brought the proceeds of what was sold . . . and distribution was made
> to each as any had need."
> Or consider the even older Judeo-Christian doctrine of the tithe,
> giving 10% of one's income to support religious and charitable works.
this is an act of personal charity, which I support heartily. It does not
say give to Ceaser so that he may give to the poor.
From: assimilate on 21 Feb 2010 21:56
On 21-Feb-2010, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> > What you call reason smells of ideology to me.
> Reality disagrees with you.
> You've been to France, correct? They spend 11% of their GDP on
> healthcare and have the 8th best average life expectancy in the world,
> at 80.98 years. The US? 15.3% GDP (highest in the world) and an average
> life expectancy of 78.11, ranked 49th in the world according to the
> CIA's world fact book. Same for Canada. Germany. The UK. Sweden.
> Switzerland. Et cetera.
what does it really cost? A stagnant economy; high unemployment that some
would say triggered the riots of not so long ago.
From: Carbon on 21 Feb 2010 21:57
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 02:42:50 +0000, assimilate wrote:
> On 21-Feb-2010, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>> Sure, it could be anyone. But, I still don't see the solution being
>>> Universal Health Care.
>> That's because you're an ideologue.
> you keep using that word...I don't think it means what you think it
> means! --Inigo Montoya
Main Entry: ideo·logue
Variant(s): also idea·logue \ˈī-dē-ə-ˌlȯg, -ˌläg\
Etymology: French idéologue, back-formation from idéologie
"an often blindly partisan advocate or adherent of a particular
My position on universal healthcare is based on my experience growing up
with it, along with solid statistics such as total cost as a percentage
of GDP and average life expectancy. Whereas you true believers are 100%
certain you are right even though none of you has any real evidence to
support it. Certainty, sans evidence. There's a word for that...
From: assimilate on 21 Feb 2010 21:58
On 21-Feb-2010, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> > > Thank you comrade Carbon.
> > I win.
> What did you win?
self-approval. It is what the Left is all about. As Thomas Sowell likes to
call it "the politics of self-congratulation"
From: Carbon on 21 Feb 2010 21:59
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 02:58:55 +0000, assimilate wrote:
> On 21-Feb-2010, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
>>>> Thank you comrade Carbon.
>>> I win.
>> What did you win?
> self-approval. It is what the Left is all about. As Thomas Sowell likes
> to call it "the politics of self-congratulation"
Whatever turns your crank, Bill. You're still wrong.