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From: AKA Gray Asphalt 2 on 24 Aug 2006 18:46 I meant 'swing' the grip. Who is it that uses this phrase, anyway? A famous teacher, I think. Was it Harvey Pennick? "AKA Gray Asphalt 2" <goodidea1950_SPM_(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:UhcHg.14317$lv.856(a)fed1read12... > > It's more important to seing the grip, isn't it than to worry about the > crazy things a clubhead does? When you look at the photos with time lapse > photography the clubhead looks like a 4 plane roller coaster. > > "David Laville" <dlaville(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote in message > news:u2ipe299rt0at7bt3omuh4pvq3se73g9nm(a)4ax.com... >> On 23 Aug 2006 09:39:53 -0700, blakestah(a)gmail.com wrote: >> >>>There is no two-plane swing. >> >> Yes there is and the majority of tour players use it. The club starts >> on the plane of the club at address and shifts to a plane that runs >> through the right shoulder position at the top. >> >> However I have yet to see anyone use a one-plane swing and not even >> Hardy teaches one. What he advocates is a single "plane angle" in >> which the club stays parallel to the original plane established at >> address but still shifts to another plane. To be a one-plane swing >> the player would have to keep the club on the same plane established >> at address. >> >>>There is a swing in which the arms and torso work together naturally, >>>formalized earliest and most clearly by Hogan. >> >> The plane isn't defined by the arms and torso. >> >>>Then there is a swing in which the arms cross the lines of the torso, >>>and a precise >>>series of compensations can allow decent shotmaking some of >>>the time. >> >> >> >> David Laville, G.S.E.M. >> The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor >> TB-8982 > >
From: Howard Brazee on 24 Aug 2006 19:15 On 24 Aug 2006 15:03:58 -0700, "larryrsf" <larry(a)delmardata.com> wrote: >And that is the reason many, many very good players refuse to look at >their swings on video. How many current Tour players are among this "many, many"?
From: bruce on 24 Aug 2006 22:11 i spent 3 days at the golf range, hitting 100 balls each time, and played two rounds so far. i ended up scoring 86 and 87, while normally i would shoot 93 or 95. On my second round i hit 10 of 14 fairways, and 8 of 18 greens, before changing i would hit an average of 3 to 4 fairways, and the same amount of greens. if this can take 7 to 8 strokes a round off that would be totally awessome. bruce "Larry Bud" <larrybud2002(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1156421958.414128.257960(a)b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... bruce wrote: > has anyone changed over from a 2 plane swing to a one plane swing, and if > so > how long did it take to change, and what benefits did you notice? Plus > what > are some of the negatives do you have about the 1 plane? > > I just changed over a week ago, and i love it. With all due respect, one cannot just "change" their swing like a lightswitch. Some of the smallest moves take weeks and several lessons to embed, and you're talking about a major change.
From: AKA Gray Asphalt 2 on 24 Aug 2006 22:10 When talking about the swing plane, I wonder if David Ledbetter's comment that eventually swings will start from what is now the last half of the downswing, ie with the arms waist high and the hands fully cocked, with no backswing, has any implications for the 'plane' contraversy.
From: bruce on 24 Aug 2006 22:17
before i used to hook the ball especially as the clubs got longer, but in my last round i hooked the ball only once, and hit the ball straight or a slight push, and i feel i pushed the ball, because my shoulders didn't come through fast enough. bruce "bruce" <buyede(a)shaw.ca> wrote in message news:9%sHg.452547$Mn5.413539(a)pd7tw3no... i spent 3 days at the golf range, hitting 100 balls each time, and played two rounds so far. i ended up scoring 86 and 87, while normally i would shoot 93 or 95. On my second round i hit 10 of 14 fairways, and 8 of 18 greens, before changing i would hit an average of 3 to 4 fairways, and the same amount of greens. if this can take 7 to 8 strokes a round off that would be totally awessome. bruce "Larry Bud" <larrybud2002(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1156421958.414128.257960(a)b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... bruce wrote: > has anyone changed over from a 2 plane swing to a one plane swing, and if > so > how long did it take to change, and what benefits did you notice? Plus > what > are some of the negatives do you have about the 1 plane? > > I just changed over a week ago, and i love it. With all due respect, one cannot just "change" their swing like a lightswitch. Some of the smallest moves take weeks and several lessons to embed, and you're talking about a major change. |