From: Kommienezuspadt on

"The moderator" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote in message
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> "Howard Brazee" <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 12:06:31 -0400, "Frank Ketchum"
>> <nospam(a)thanksanyway.com> wrote:
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>>>Why does this matter so much? Republicans have no power to stop any of
>>>this
>>>legislation in the house, senate, or white house. Why does the left care
>>>so
>>>much about what Republicans are doing when they don't need a single
>>>Republican vote to implement their policies?
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>> In politics, perception is very important.
>
> That is how we ended up with Obama.
>

yes -- the voters were very perceptive -- they took one look at Bailin'
Palin and knew there was NO WAY.


From: assimilate on

On 19-Oct-2009, "gray asphalt" <dontwrite(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> When you have lobbyists and special interest
> legislation there will be no free market. Libertarian
> ideas are just that, ideas. Not pragmatic. Perfection
> that gets in the way of the doable. Escapism, imo.
> They do need to be heard,though, but not treated as
> a realistic possibility, imo.

Like any ideals, they are goals to strive for. But you are right, man will
never have totally free markets.

--
bill-o
From: gray asphalt on

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> On 19-Oct-2009, "gray asphalt" <dontwrite(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> When you have lobbyists and special interest
>> legislation there will be no free market. Libertarian
>> ideas are just that, ideas. Not pragmatic. Perfection
>> that gets in the way of the doable. Escapism, imo.
>> They do need to be heard,though, but not treated as
>> a realistic possibility, imo.
>
> Like any ideals, they are goals to strive for. But you are right, man will
> never have totally free markets.
>
> --
> bill-o

The markets are getting less free, no?


From: Jack Hollis on
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 08:55:42 -0700 (PDT), Dinosaur_Sr
<frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote:

>Good points, at least IMHO. One of the benefits of democracy is that
>you can get rid of govts if they get too corrupt. Not perfect, but
>better than any alternative.

Or, as Al Smith said, "The cure for the ills of democracy is more
democracy."
From: Jack Hollis on
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 05:28:07 GMT, john <john(a)somewhere.net> wrote:

>If you want to know where to start, try this: think about it. How to
>get an honest legislature and executive elected?

Step 1, ban all political contributions from any source.