Illegal alien rights in the U.S.
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From: Turban Joe Balasootoe on 13 May 2010 21:12 On May 13, 6:47 pm, Strabo <str...(a)flashlight.net> wrote: > brad herschel wrote: > > On May 13, 1:48 pm, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote: > >> On Thu, 13 May 2010 10:39:55 -0700 (PDT), "Speeders & Drunk Drivers > > >> are MURDERERS" <beta...(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > >>> On May 13, 6:15 am, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote: > >>>> This should clear up one misconception here. > >>>> The fourteenth amendment to the U.S. Constitution says: > >>>> ...Nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property > >>>> ...without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its > >>>> jurisdiction the equal protection of the law. > >>>> ...The Supreme Court has ruled that these provisions apply to all > >>>> ...persons in the U.S., without regard to race, or nationality. > >>>> ...Therefore, U.S. residents -- legal and illegal -- have > >>>> ...constitutional rights such as equal protection of the law and the > >>>> ...right to due process. > >>>> BK > >>> The first words in the constitution are "We the people of the united > >>> states" and that makes it clear the words people or person refer to > >>> citizens. The SC takes their usual bribes from Business and ignores > >>> this. > >> You're an idiot....and prove it over and over. Keep it up, we need > >> the laughs. > > >> BK- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > I would take those "rights" from illegal aliens. Americans should have > > the right to shoot border crossers at site of invasion, make citizens > > arrests, seize assets, etc. > > Uncle Suckemoff is totally inept. > > Illegal aliens are foreign nationals illegally in the US. They are > quite simply, outlaws. > > > > > > > > Brad- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Legals are even more of a malediction. Here's one running for the U.S. Congressional seat in PA's 6th District: Manan Trivedi: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4. Do you agree that any immigration reform bill should: a) Contain a meaningful path to citizenship - one that does not include overly-punitive fines or a touchback requirement - for law- abiding undocumented immigrants currently in the United States; b) Ensure that expanded legal permanent immigration, rather than expansion of temporary worker programs, serves as the United States' primary external answer to workforce shortages; and c) Ensure that any non-agricultural temporary worker programs maintain current caps on the total number of non-agricultural temporary worker visas issued, and also include a meaningful prevailing wage requirement keyed to the Service Contract Act and Davis-Bacon Act? "I support all the measures above in a comprehensive immigration reform bill. I am the son of immigrants and we are a nation that continues to prosper because of the contributions of immigrants. We need to pursue comprehensive immigration reform that assures that America continues to attract and retain the best and brightest from around the world." (Trivedi)
From: Howard Brazee on 13 May 2010 21:15 On Thu, 13 May 2010 18:47:42 -0400, Strabo <strabo(a)flashlight.net> wrote: >Illegal aliens are foreign nationals illegally in the US. They are >quite simply, outlaws. We've all broken laws. But our justice system assumes we are innocent until found guilty. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: Strabo on 13 May 2010 23:47 Howard Brazee wrote: > On Thu, 13 May 2010 18:47:42 -0400, Strabo <strabo(a)flashlight.net> > wrote: > >> Illegal aliens are foreign nationals illegally in the US. They are >> quite simply, outlaws. > > We've all broken laws. But our justice system assumes we are > innocent until found guilty. > Maybe it's about how you define "we". If one is within the US and is not demonstrably a citizen of the US, and one does not have papers authorizing his presence, then one is a foreign national. Does a Frenchman have 5th A. rights? Germans? Brazilians? Mexicans? If one is an illegal alien the 5th A. does not apply. Illegal aliens do not have unalienable rights.
From: Alan Baker on 14 May 2010 03:57 In article <00e97203-afd3-4267-a00a-90502792baef(a)p2g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <betaxxx(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > On May 13, 6:15�am, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote: > > This should clear up one misconception here. > > > > The fourteenth amendment to the U.S. Constitution says: > > > > ...Nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property > > ...without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its > > jurisdiction the equal protection of the law. > > > > ...The Supreme Court has ruled that these provisions apply to all > > ...persons in the U.S., without regard to race, or nationality. > > ...Therefore, U.S. residents -- legal and illegal -- have > > ...constitutional rights such as equal protection of the law and the > > ...right to due process. > > > > BK > > The first words in the constitution are "We the people of the united > states" and that makes it clear the words people or person refer to > citizens. The SC takes their usual bribes from Business and ignores > this. No. It makes it clear that the people of the United States are making a set of rules. They go on to say that those rules will apply to "any person" and make no mention of restricting that only to citizens. Furthermore the Declaration of Independence makes it perfectly clear that the founders believed that the rights of people came from a creator and were "inalienable" (unable to be taken away by anyone). How could rights granted by a supreme being not apply to all his creations? -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: Alan Baker on 14 May 2010 03:59
In article <7n_Gn.6403$mi.2229(a)newsfe01.iad>, "Frank Ketchum" <nospam(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote: > <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message > news:l9rnu5dugg77jus2l08hs6ms20udi7bo9h(a)4ax.com... > > This should clear up one misconception here. > > > > The fourteenth amendment to the U.S. Constitution says: > > > > > > ...Nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property > > ...without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its > > jurisdiction the equal protection of the law. > > > > ...The Supreme Court has ruled that these provisions apply to all > > ...persons in the U.S., without regard to race, or nationality. > > ...Therefore, U.S. residents -- legal and illegal -- have > > ...constitutional rights such as equal protection of the law and the > > ...right to due process. > > > This is the same constitution wherein we have uncovered a right to abortion. > We don't take what the constitution actually says literally anymore. Your constitution makes it very clear on the subject of rights that it was never providing a definitive and exhaustive list of all the rights that people possess. > > Glad I had a chance to clear that up. You should try reading and understanding the document before you "clear" anything up about it. -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg> |