From: BAR on
In article <4b34f364$0$4987$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>
> On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 10:54:43 -0500, BAR wrote:
> > In article <4b34cd9c$0$4968$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> > nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
> >> On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 06:38:41 +0000, assimilate wrote:
> >>> On 24-Dec-2009, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> What is peace? The mere abscence of war?
> >>>>
> >>>> It's a decent start.
> >>>
> >>> Even if you are ensalved, or carted off to a gas chamber, because
> >>> you didn't put up a fight?
> >>
> >> Obviously what I had in mind was avoiding voluntary disastrously
> >> expensive quagmires in foreign countries.
> >
> > You had better start working on changing human nature.
>
> Usually all that is required is to keep the idiots out of power.

Do you believe that the truly intelligent seek to be in power or do they
desire to be the power behind the throne?
From: Carbon on
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 12:23:46 -0500, BAR wrote:
> In article <4b34f364$0$4987$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>> On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 10:54:43 -0500, BAR wrote:
>>> In article <4b34cd9c$0$4968$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
>>> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>>>> On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 06:38:41 +0000, assimilate wrote:
>>>>> On 24-Dec-2009, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is peace? The mere abscence of war?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's a decent start.
>>>>>
>>>>> Even if you are ensalved, or carted off to a gas chamber, because
>>>>> you didn't put up a fight?
>>>>
>>>> Obviously what I had in mind was avoiding voluntary disastrously
>>>> expensive quagmires in foreign countries.
>>>
>>> You had better start working on changing human nature.
>>
>> Usually all that is required is to keep the idiots out of power.
>
> Do you believe that the truly intelligent seek to be in power or do
> they desire to be the power behind the throne?

I meant keeping ideologues like Cheney, Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld out of
power--those who would allow political fantasies cloud their ability to
reason.
From: assimilate on

On 25-Dec-2009, dsc-ky <Dudley.Cornman(a)eku.edu> wrote:

> Sorry. I'm sure you can find a country that still enforces
> > racial subjugation by force, denies women the right to vote,
> > puts debtors in prison, etc. There are plenty of 'em around.
> >
> > cb
>
> I fail to see what this has to do with taxation or what's been
> discussed up to this point? Seems tangent?

It's called deflection

--
bill-o