From: BAR on
In article <4b345317$0$5123$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>
> On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 05:31:23 +0000, assimilate wrote:
> > On 23-Dec-2009, Chris Bellomy <ten.wohsdoog(a)sirhc> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm happy to pay taxes for some things, like the police and the
> >>> military but not for others, like Social Security, Medicare, public
> >>> schools (K-12 and colleges) and hundreds of other things the
> >>> government have no business being involved in.
> >>
> >> Hey, I love peace and have to pay for war. That's just how the deal
> >> works.
> >
> > What is peace? The mere abscence of war?
>
> It's a decent start.

Peace is what you have right after the war. Let a few years go by and
you will have discontent and the building of an insurgency. Which all
leads up to the next war.

From: BAR on
In article <4b34cd9c$0$4968$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>
> On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 06:38:41 +0000, assimilate wrote:
> > On 24-Dec-2009, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >>> What is peace? The mere abscence of war?
> >>
> >> It's a decent start.
> >
> > Even if you are ensalved, or carted off to a gas chamber, because you
> > didn't put up a fight?
>
> Obviously what I had in mind was avoiding voluntary disastrously
> expensive quagmires in foreign countries.

You had better start working on changing human nature.


From: Carbon on
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 10:53:23 -0500, BAR wrote:
> In article <4b345317$0$5123$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>> On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 05:31:23 +0000, assimilate wrote:
>>> On 23-Dec-2009, Chris Bellomy <ten.wohsdoog(a)sirhc> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm happy to pay taxes for some things, like the police and the
>>>>> military but not for others, like Social Security, Medicare,
>>>>> public schools (K-12 and colleges) and hundreds of other things
>>>>> the government have no business being involved in.
>>>>
>>>> Hey, I love peace and have to pay for war. That's just how the deal
>>>> works.
>>>
>>> What is peace? The mere abscence of war?
>>
>> It's a decent start.
>
> Peace is what you have right after the war. Let a few years go by and
> you will have discontent and the building of an insurgency. Which all
> leads up to the next war.

Obviously what I had in mind was avoiding pointless, voluntary,
disastrously expensive wars in foreign lands.
From: Carbon on
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 10:54:43 -0500, BAR wrote:
> In article <4b34cd9c$0$4968$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>> On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 06:38:41 +0000, assimilate wrote:
>>> On 24-Dec-2009, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> What is peace? The mere abscence of war?
>>>>
>>>> It's a decent start.
>>>
>>> Even if you are ensalved, or carted off to a gas chamber, because
>>> you didn't put up a fight?
>>
>> Obviously what I had in mind was avoiding voluntary disastrously
>> expensive quagmires in foreign countries.
>
> You had better start working on changing human nature.

Usually all that is required is to keep the idiots out of power.
From: BAR on
In article <4b34f0e6$0$4968$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>
> On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 10:53:23 -0500, BAR wrote:
> > In article <4b345317$0$5123$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> > nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
> >> On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 05:31:23 +0000, assimilate wrote:
> >>> On 23-Dec-2009, Chris Bellomy <ten.wohsdoog(a)sirhc> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I'm happy to pay taxes for some things, like the police and the
> >>>>> military but not for others, like Social Security, Medicare,
> >>>>> public schools (K-12 and colleges) and hundreds of other things
> >>>>> the government have no business being involved in.
> >>>>
> >>>> Hey, I love peace and have to pay for war. That's just how the deal
> >>>> works.
> >>>
> >>> What is peace? The mere abscence of war?
> >>
> >> It's a decent start.
> >
> > Peace is what you have right after the war. Let a few years go by and
> > you will have discontent and the building of an insurgency. Which all
> > leads up to the next war.
>
> Obviously what I had in mind was avoiding pointless, voluntary,
> disastrously expensive wars in foreign lands.

How do you propose that "avoiding pointless, voluntary, disastrously
expensive wars in foreign lands" be accomplished?

Human nature and human frailties are the common cause of war.