From: Alan Baker on
In article
<5949938f-0765-4ec5-9a3f-b3e30a0a0009(a)a34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
"John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> On May 12, 4:30�pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> > In article <850d1uFqb...(a)mid.individual.net>,
> >
> >
> >
> > �"MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> > > <bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
> > >news:rqslu5thq97pkje9qv523pbgsvvq3qg26e(a)4ax.com...
> > > > On Wed, 12 May 2010 13:23:53 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com>
> > > > wrote:
> >
> > > >><bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
> > > >>news:8mplu55fhk4skkke3aeqtgpvoofhtprsf9(a)4ax.com...
> > > >>> On Wed, 12 May 2010 12:29:46 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com>
> > > >>> wrote:
> >
> > > >>>>"F. Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringi...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > >>>>news:hsekqa$v2l$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> >
> > > >>>>> Meghan McCain had some choice words for Sarah Palin, former Rep.
> > > >>>>> Tom
> > > >>>>> Tancredo and the conservative Tea Party movement as a whole during
> > > >>>>> her
> > > >>>>> appearance Monday on ABC's "The View."
> >
> > > >>>>> McCain, the daughter of Sen. John McCain known for occasionally
> > > >>>>> parting
> > > >>>>> ways with the views of her Republican dad, was particularly
> > > >>>>> scathing
> > > >>>>> in
> > > >>>>> her assessment of Tancredo's speech on the opening day of the
> > > >>>>> National
> > > >>>>> Tea
> > > >>>>> Party Convention on Thursday in Nashville. In the speech, Tancredo
> > > >>>>> said
> > > >>>>> people "who could not spell the word vote or say it in English"
> > > >>>>> elected
> > > >>>>> a
> > > >>>>> "committed socialist ideologue" because the country does not
> > > >>>>> require a
> > > >>>>> "civics literacy test."
> >
> > > >>>>> "It's innate racism, and I think it's why young people are turned
> > > >>>>> off
> > > >>>>> by
> > > >>>>> this movement," McCain said. "And I'm sorry -- revolutions start
> > > >>>>> with
> > > >>>>> young people, not with 65-year-old people talking about literacy
> > > >>>>> tests
> > > >>>>> and
> > > >>>>> people who can't say the word vote in English."
> >
> > > >>>>All McCains are idiots. What Meghan McCain did here is exactly the
> > > >>>>same
> > > >>>>stereotyping you were just talking about.
> >
> > > >>> How so? �She wasn't alluding to a group of people, but to Tancredo.
> > > >>> No
> > > >>> group made those statements.
> >
> > > >>> BK
> >
> > > >>""It's innate racism, and I think it's why young people are turned off
> > > >>by
> > > >>this movement"
> > > >>A movement is a group.
> >
> > > > No group made the comments to which McCain was responding. �Only
> > > > Tancredo.
> >
> > > > BK
> >
> > > And what group was Tancredo speaking to? So Meghan misspoke. She's should
> > > have said "It's innate racism, and I think it's why young people are
> > > turned
> > > off by Tom Tancredo".
> >
> > Tom Tancredo acted as a spokesperson for the Tea Party movement, so what
> > he says has an effect on how people see that movement.
> >
> No he didn't. He was speaking TO the Tea Party movement, or to members
> of it.

He was speaking to a gathering of them at their behest...

....or do you think he wrested the microphone out of someone's hands?

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: John B. on
On May 14, 3:59 am, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> In article
> <5949938f-0765-4ec5-9a3f-b3e30a0a0...(a)a34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
>  "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 12, 4:30 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> > > In article <850d1uFqb...(a)mid.individual.net>,
>
> > >  "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> > > > <bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
> > > >news:rqslu5thq97pkje9qv523pbgsvvq3qg26e(a)4ax.com...
> > > > > On Wed, 12 May 2010 13:23:53 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > >><bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
> > > > >>news:8mplu55fhk4skkke3aeqtgpvoofhtprsf9(a)4ax.com...
> > > > >>> On Wed, 12 May 2010 12:29:46 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com>
> > > > >>> wrote:
>
> > > > >>>>"F. Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringi...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > >>>>news:hsekqa$v2l$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>
> > > > >>>>> Meghan McCain had some choice words for Sarah Palin, former Rep.
> > > > >>>>> Tom
> > > > >>>>> Tancredo and the conservative Tea Party movement as a whole during
> > > > >>>>> her
> > > > >>>>> appearance Monday on ABC's "The View."
>
> > > > >>>>> McCain, the daughter of Sen. John McCain known for occasionally
> > > > >>>>> parting
> > > > >>>>> ways with the views of her Republican dad, was particularly
> > > > >>>>> scathing
> > > > >>>>> in
> > > > >>>>> her assessment of Tancredo's speech on the opening day of the
> > > > >>>>> National
> > > > >>>>> Tea
> > > > >>>>> Party Convention on Thursday in Nashville. In the speech, Tancredo
> > > > >>>>> said
> > > > >>>>> people "who could not spell the word vote or say it in English"
> > > > >>>>> elected
> > > > >>>>> a
> > > > >>>>> "committed socialist ideologue" because the country does not
> > > > >>>>> require a
> > > > >>>>> "civics literacy test."
>
> > > > >>>>> "It's innate racism, and I think it's why young people are turned
> > > > >>>>> off
> > > > >>>>> by
> > > > >>>>> this movement," McCain said. "And I'm sorry -- revolutions start
> > > > >>>>> with
> > > > >>>>> young people, not with 65-year-old people talking about literacy
> > > > >>>>> tests
> > > > >>>>> and
> > > > >>>>> people who can't say the word vote in English."
>
> > > > >>>>All McCains are idiots. What Meghan McCain did here is exactly the
> > > > >>>>same
> > > > >>>>stereotyping you were just talking about.
>
> > > > >>> How so?  She wasn't alluding to a group of people, but to Tancredo.
> > > > >>> No
> > > > >>> group made those statements.
>
> > > > >>> BK
>
> > > > >>""It's innate racism, and I think it's why young people are turned off
> > > > >>by
> > > > >>this movement"
> > > > >>A movement is a group.
>
> > > > > No group made the comments to which McCain was responding.  Only
> > > > > Tancredo.
>
> > > > > BK
>
> > > > And what group was Tancredo speaking to? So Meghan misspoke. She's should
> > > > have said "It's innate racism, and I think it's why young people are
> > > > turned
> > > > off by Tom Tancredo".
>
> > > Tom Tancredo acted as a spokesperson for the Tea Party movement, so what
> > > he says has an effect on how people see that movement.
>
> > No he didn't. He was speaking TO the Tea Party movement, or to members
> > of it.
>
> He was speaking to a gathering of them at their behest...
>
> ...or do you think he wrested the microphone out of someone's hands?

That doesn't make him their spokesman. Maybe you should look that word
up.

From: Billy on
In article <hsipu3$ec3$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
"F. Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Billy" <wildbilly(a)withouta.net> wrote in message
> news:wildbilly-A263F9.16170413052010(a)c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au...
> > In article <hsddjl$i1a$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> > "F. Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "kenpitts" <ken.ptts(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:5e5aa8bc-06fe-41f7-84b1-
> >>
> >> > I said a high percentage. I didn't compare it to any other percentage.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Got a cite for that?
> >
> > When are you bozos going to get it through you're thick skulls that
> > illegals didn't send your jobs over seas?
>
> <snip>
>
>
> I never claimed that. Thanks for your cites.

Sorry, I'll try to tighten up on my net the next time I throw it.
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html
From: kenpitts on
On May 12, 11:27 am, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote:
> On Tue, 11 May 2010 19:44:51 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts
>
> <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >There are also other cases involving DUI and traffic fatalities.
>
> >Ken
>
> >http://www.examiner.com/x-35821-Immigration-Reform-Examiner~y2010m5d8...
>
> I guess the following  should be titled Here is your typical American
> parents for you.
>
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37096533/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/
>
> BK

msnbc ? They're objective................

Here is a view of what illegals are up to.

Ken

http://www.usillegalaliens.com/impacts_of_illegal_immigration_crime_summary..html
From: bknight on
On Fri, 14 May 2010 19:07:33 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts
<ken.ptts(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>On May 12, 11:27�am, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 May 2010 19:44:51 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts
>>
>> <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> >There are also other cases involving DUI and traffic fatalities.
>>
>> >Ken
>>
>> >http://www.examiner.com/x-35821-Immigration-Reform-Examiner~y2010m5d8...
>>
>> I guess the following �should be titled Here is your typical American
>> parents for you.
>>
>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37096533/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/
>>
>> BK
>
>msnbc ? They're objective................
>
>Here is a view of what illegals are up to.

Whoosh.
>
BK