From: Alan Baker on 14 May 2010 03:59 In article <5949938f-0765-4ec5-9a3f-b3e30a0a0009(a)a34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On May 12, 4:30�pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: > > In article <850d1uFqb...(a)mid.individual.net>, > > > > > > > > �"MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > <bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message > > >news:rqslu5thq97pkje9qv523pbgsvvq3qg26e(a)4ax.com... > > > > On Wed, 12 May 2010 13:23:53 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > >><bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message > > > >>news:8mplu55fhk4skkke3aeqtgpvoofhtprsf9(a)4ax.com... > > > >>> On Wed, 12 May 2010 12:29:46 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> > > > >>> wrote: > > > > > >>>>"F. Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringi...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > >>>>news:hsekqa$v2l$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > > > > >>>>> Meghan McCain had some choice words for Sarah Palin, former Rep. > > > >>>>> Tom > > > >>>>> Tancredo and the conservative Tea Party movement as a whole during > > > >>>>> her > > > >>>>> appearance Monday on ABC's "The View." > > > > > >>>>> McCain, the daughter of Sen. John McCain known for occasionally > > > >>>>> parting > > > >>>>> ways with the views of her Republican dad, was particularly > > > >>>>> scathing > > > >>>>> in > > > >>>>> her assessment of Tancredo's speech on the opening day of the > > > >>>>> National > > > >>>>> Tea > > > >>>>> Party Convention on Thursday in Nashville. In the speech, Tancredo > > > >>>>> said > > > >>>>> people "who could not spell the word vote or say it in English" > > > >>>>> elected > > > >>>>> a > > > >>>>> "committed socialist ideologue" because the country does not > > > >>>>> require a > > > >>>>> "civics literacy test." > > > > > >>>>> "It's innate racism, and I think it's why young people are turned > > > >>>>> off > > > >>>>> by > > > >>>>> this movement," McCain said. "And I'm sorry -- revolutions start > > > >>>>> with > > > >>>>> young people, not with 65-year-old people talking about literacy > > > >>>>> tests > > > >>>>> and > > > >>>>> people who can't say the word vote in English." > > > > > >>>>All McCains are idiots. What Meghan McCain did here is exactly the > > > >>>>same > > > >>>>stereotyping you were just talking about. > > > > > >>> How so? �She wasn't alluding to a group of people, but to Tancredo. > > > >>> No > > > >>> group made those statements. > > > > > >>> BK > > > > > >>""It's innate racism, and I think it's why young people are turned off > > > >>by > > > >>this movement" > > > >>A movement is a group. > > > > > > No group made the comments to which McCain was responding. �Only > > > > Tancredo. > > > > > > BK > > > > > And what group was Tancredo speaking to? So Meghan misspoke. She's should > > > have said "It's innate racism, and I think it's why young people are > > > turned > > > off by Tom Tancredo". > > > > Tom Tancredo acted as a spokesperson for the Tea Party movement, so what > > he says has an effect on how people see that movement. > > > No he didn't. He was speaking TO the Tea Party movement, or to members > of it. He was speaking to a gathering of them at their behest... ....or do you think he wrested the microphone out of someone's hands? -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: John B. on 14 May 2010 10:34 On May 14, 3:59 am, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: > In article > <5949938f-0765-4ec5-9a3f-b3e30a0a0...(a)a34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 12, 4:30 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: > > > In article <850d1uFqb...(a)mid.individual.net>, > > > > "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > <bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message > > > >news:rqslu5thq97pkje9qv523pbgsvvq3qg26e(a)4ax.com... > > > > > On Wed, 12 May 2010 13:23:53 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >><bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message > > > > >>news:8mplu55fhk4skkke3aeqtgpvoofhtprsf9(a)4ax.com... > > > > >>> On Wed, 12 May 2010 12:29:46 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > > >>>>"F. Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringi...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > > >>>>news:hsekqa$v2l$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > > > > >>>>> Meghan McCain had some choice words for Sarah Palin, former Rep. > > > > >>>>> Tom > > > > >>>>> Tancredo and the conservative Tea Party movement as a whole during > > > > >>>>> her > > > > >>>>> appearance Monday on ABC's "The View." > > > > > >>>>> McCain, the daughter of Sen. John McCain known for occasionally > > > > >>>>> parting > > > > >>>>> ways with the views of her Republican dad, was particularly > > > > >>>>> scathing > > > > >>>>> in > > > > >>>>> her assessment of Tancredo's speech on the opening day of the > > > > >>>>> National > > > > >>>>> Tea > > > > >>>>> Party Convention on Thursday in Nashville. In the speech, Tancredo > > > > >>>>> said > > > > >>>>> people "who could not spell the word vote or say it in English" > > > > >>>>> elected > > > > >>>>> a > > > > >>>>> "committed socialist ideologue" because the country does not > > > > >>>>> require a > > > > >>>>> "civics literacy test." > > > > > >>>>> "It's innate racism, and I think it's why young people are turned > > > > >>>>> off > > > > >>>>> by > > > > >>>>> this movement," McCain said. "And I'm sorry -- revolutions start > > > > >>>>> with > > > > >>>>> young people, not with 65-year-old people talking about literacy > > > > >>>>> tests > > > > >>>>> and > > > > >>>>> people who can't say the word vote in English." > > > > > >>>>All McCains are idiots. What Meghan McCain did here is exactly the > > > > >>>>same > > > > >>>>stereotyping you were just talking about. > > > > > >>> How so? She wasn't alluding to a group of people, but to Tancredo. > > > > >>> No > > > > >>> group made those statements. > > > > > >>> BK > > > > > >>""It's innate racism, and I think it's why young people are turned off > > > > >>by > > > > >>this movement" > > > > >>A movement is a group. > > > > > > No group made the comments to which McCain was responding. Only > > > > > Tancredo. > > > > > > BK > > > > > And what group was Tancredo speaking to? So Meghan misspoke. She's should > > > > have said "It's innate racism, and I think it's why young people are > > > > turned > > > > off by Tom Tancredo". > > > > Tom Tancredo acted as a spokesperson for the Tea Party movement, so what > > > he says has an effect on how people see that movement. > > > No he didn't. He was speaking TO the Tea Party movement, or to members > > of it. > > He was speaking to a gathering of them at their behest... > > ...or do you think he wrested the microphone out of someone's hands? That doesn't make him their spokesman. Maybe you should look that word up.
From: Billy on 14 May 2010 20:02 In article <hsipu3$ec3$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, "F. Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > "Billy" <wildbilly(a)withouta.net> wrote in message > news:wildbilly-A263F9.16170413052010(a)c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au... > > In article <hsddjl$i1a$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, > > "F. Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > >> "kenpitts" <ken.ptts(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > >> news:5e5aa8bc-06fe-41f7-84b1- > >> > >> > I said a high percentage. I didn't compare it to any other percentage. > >> > >> > >> > >> Got a cite for that? > > > > When are you bozos going to get it through you're thick skulls that > > illegals didn't send your jobs over seas? > > <snip> > > > I never claimed that. Thanks for your cites. Sorry, I'll try to tighten up on my net the next time I throw it. -- - Billy "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html
From: kenpitts on 14 May 2010 22:07 On May 12, 11:27 am, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote: > On Tue, 11 May 2010 19:44:51 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts > > <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >There are also other cases involving DUI and traffic fatalities. > > >Ken > > >http://www.examiner.com/x-35821-Immigration-Reform-Examiner~y2010m5d8... > > I guess the following should be titled Here is your typical American > parents for you. > > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37096533/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/ > > BK msnbc ? They're objective................ Here is a view of what illegals are up to. Ken http://www.usillegalaliens.com/impacts_of_illegal_immigration_crime_summary..html
From: bknight on 14 May 2010 22:16
On Fri, 14 May 2010 19:07:33 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts <ken.ptts(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On May 12, 11:27�am, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote: >> On Tue, 11 May 2010 19:44:51 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts >> >> <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >There are also other cases involving DUI and traffic fatalities. >> >> >Ken >> >> >http://www.examiner.com/x-35821-Immigration-Reform-Examiner~y2010m5d8... >> >> I guess the following �should be titled Here is your typical American >> parents for you. >> >> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37096533/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/ >> >> BK > >msnbc ? They're objective................ > >Here is a view of what illegals are up to. Whoosh. > BK |