From: bknight on
On Wed, 12 May 2010 12:29:46 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com>
wrote:

>
>"F. Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:hsekqa$v2l$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...

>> Meghan McCain had some choice words for Sarah Palin, former Rep. Tom
>> Tancredo and the conservative Tea Party movement as a whole during her
>> appearance Monday on ABC's "The View."
>>
>> McCain, the daughter of Sen. John McCain known for occasionally parting
>> ways with the views of her Republican dad, was particularly scathing in
>> her assessment of Tancredo's speech on the opening day of the National Tea
>> Party Convention on Thursday in Nashville. In the speech, Tancredo said
>> people "who could not spell the word vote or say it in English" elected a
>> "committed socialist ideologue" because the country does not require a
>> "civics literacy test."
>>
>> "It's innate racism, and I think it's why young people are turned off by
>> this movement," McCain said. "And I'm sorry -- revolutions start with
>> young people, not with 65-year-old people talking about literacy tests and
>> people who can't say the word vote in English."
>>
>All McCains are idiots. What Meghan McCain did here is exactly the same
>stereotyping you were just talking about.
>
How so? She wasn't alluding to a group of people, but to Tancredo. No
group made those statements.

BK
From: John B. on
On May 11, 11:29 pm, kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 11, 10:23 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > In article
> > <3e875b86-a9ae-41ad-ba7d-12059d6a2...(a)a21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
>
> >  kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On May 11, 9:57 pm, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 11 May 2010 19:44:51 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts
>
> > > > <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >There are also other cases involving DUI and traffic fatalities.
>
> > > > >Ken
>
> > > > >http://www.examiner.com/x-35821-Immigration-Reform-Examiner~y2010m5d8...
>
> > > > Are you seriously taking the position that all illegal aliens are
> > > > child molesters?  The percentages are probably a lot lower than
> > > > catholic priests.
>
> > > > Get real Ken.  
>
> > > > BK
>
> > > Where did I say that all of them are criminals? But, many of them are..
>
> > Do you have any evidence that it's a higher percentage than the legal
> > population which is as poor?
>
> > Or is there something that colours your thinking?
>
> > > California's prison system has a high percentage of them. So do the
> > > federal prisons. Not to mention our schools and hospitals. These
> > > people are are a big burden at a time when we cannot afford them.
>
> > Schools and hospitals have a high percentage of illegals who are
> > criminals?
>
> > > Be legal to be here. Like my family.
>
> > > This Gonzales should have been dropped the minute he crossed the
> > > border. A six year old girl. Other victims before that. You get real.
>
> > Nice. Sentenced to death by Ken Pitts without trial.
>
> > --
> > Alan Baker
> > Vancouver, British Columbia
> > <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I said a high percentage. I didn't compare it to any other percentage.
> Learn how to read, dope.
>
> Anything > 0% is too high.
>
> Ken
>
> Ken

How high?
From: John B. on
On May 12, 1:29 pm, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> "F. Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringi...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:hsekqa$v2l$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>
>
>
> > <bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
> >news:3tklu5da1bh9qimof0o9a68sjmr1tjfkno(a)4ax.com...
>
> >>>> One can find deviants in any demographic group. Painting the character
> >>>> of
> >>>> an entire group based upon the actions of a few is politely called
> >>>> stereotyping. Impolitely, it can be called some other things.
>
> >>>Kind of like what the media does to the Tea Party movement.
>
> >> correct, but don't blame the media because the Tea Party doesn't keep
> >> those few fools in check.
>
> > That is correct.
>
> >http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/02/09/meghan-mccain-blasts-tea-p...
>
> > Meghan McCain had some choice words for Sarah Palin, former Rep. Tom
> > Tancredo and the conservative Tea Party movement as a whole during her
> > appearance Monday on ABC's "The View."
>
> > McCain, the daughter of Sen. John McCain known for occasionally parting
> > ways with the views of her Republican dad, was particularly scathing in
> > her assessment of Tancredo's speech on the opening day of the National Tea
> > Party Convention on Thursday in Nashville. In the speech, Tancredo said
> > people "who could not spell the word vote or say it in English" elected a
> > "committed socialist ideologue" because the country does not require a
> > "civics literacy test."
>
> > "It's innate racism, and I think it's why young people are turned off by
> > this movement," McCain said. "And I'm sorry -- revolutions start with
> > young people, not with 65-year-old people talking about literacy tests and
> > people who can't say the word vote in English."
>
> All McCains are idiots. What Meghan McCain did here is exactly the same
> stereotyping you were just talking about.

How is criticizing Tancredo for his disgusting remarks stereotyping?
From: MNMikeW on

<bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
news:8mplu55fhk4skkke3aeqtgpvoofhtprsf9(a)4ax.com...
> On Wed, 12 May 2010 12:29:46 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"F. Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:hsekqa$v2l$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>
>>> Meghan McCain had some choice words for Sarah Palin, former Rep. Tom
>>> Tancredo and the conservative Tea Party movement as a whole during her
>>> appearance Monday on ABC's "The View."
>>>
>>> McCain, the daughter of Sen. John McCain known for occasionally parting
>>> ways with the views of her Republican dad, was particularly scathing in
>>> her assessment of Tancredo's speech on the opening day of the National
>>> Tea
>>> Party Convention on Thursday in Nashville. In the speech, Tancredo said
>>> people "who could not spell the word vote or say it in English" elected
>>> a
>>> "committed socialist ideologue" because the country does not require a
>>> "civics literacy test."
>>>
>>> "It's innate racism, and I think it's why young people are turned off by
>>> this movement," McCain said. "And I'm sorry -- revolutions start with
>>> young people, not with 65-year-old people talking about literacy tests
>>> and
>>> people who can't say the word vote in English."
>>>
>>All McCains are idiots. What Meghan McCain did here is exactly the same
>>stereotyping you were just talking about.
>>
> How so? She wasn't alluding to a group of people, but to Tancredo. No
> group made those statements.
>
> BK

""It's innate racism, and I think it's why young people are turned off by
this movement"
A movement is a group.


From: MNMikeW on

<bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 12 May 2010 12:27:36 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>><bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
>>news:3tklu5da1bh9qimof0o9a68sjmr1tjfkno(a)4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 12 May 2010 10:45:30 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"F. Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:hsd98s$5n4$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>
>
>>>>> One can find deviants in any demographic group. Painting the character
>>>>> of
>>>>> an entire group based upon the actions of a few is politely called
>>>>> stereotyping. Impolitely, it can be called some other things.
>>>
>>>>Kind of like what the media does to the Tea Party movement.
>>>>
>>> correct, but don't blame the media because the Tea Party doesn't keep
>>> those few fools in check.
>>>
>>> BK
>>
>>And just how exactly are they supposed to do that.
>
> For starters take control of their meetings and demonstrations.

The Tea Party movement is not controlled by a single entity. And ANYBODY can
show up
at ANY demonstration.
>
>>So the Hispanic community
>>should be blamed for not keeping their fools in check?
>
> Of course. Why would you think differently?
>
> BK

Ok, I'll hold my breath till this happens.