From: Alan Murphy on
"larryrsf" <larry(a)delmardata.com> wrote in message
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>
> gary hayenga wrote:
>> On 2006-07-19 08:44:00 -0400, "Hero" <khunt(a)ethus.jnj.com> said:
>>
>> > Larry - that's prob due to the fact that your 100% is about 70% of
>> > normal golfers.
>>
>> So you're saying that Larry Bud's absolute max is only equal to what a
>> normal golfer can do swinging at 70%?
>>
>> I'm hoping I misunderstood you, because otherwise that's one of the
>> most ignorant things I've ever heard.
>>
>> Larry Bud doesn't have a 5 handicap because he's a short hitter. One
>> of the reasons he has a 5 handicap is he hits it a lot further than a
>> "normal" golfer.
>
> If he really shoots in the mid-70s, he has a better than average short
> game. When he misses the greens he gets it close enough to one-putt.
> That is the primary difference between those who shoot in the low 80s
> and those who shoot 10 strokes lower. Both get it inside 100 yards in
> the same number of strokes off the tee-- but then the low single
> handicapper gets it close and then makes the putt. He has skills that
> came from (and are maintained by) playing or practicing a LOT! The 10
> handicapper gets it on-- but not close--and requires 2 putts. Repeat
> that around the course and the two scores are 75 and 85. So the lower
> score had almost NOTHING to do with distance with driver or
> irons--assuming both are smart enough to avoid hitting into trouble.
>
> That is how an 80 year old good player can shoot scratch from the
> tips-- while not hitting any par 4 GIR. Gene Littler does that every
> day--and I watched Tommy Bolt (almost 90) par a monster course in
> Florida-- from the tips.
>
> Larry W (RSG King!--according to Tex)
>
In general, handicaps are inversely proportional
to distance, you dolt. The longer you hit it, the
lower your handicap.

Alan.


From: Alan Murphy on
"Chris Bellomy" <puevf(a)tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote in message
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> jeffc <jeffc226(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> : Name one pro golfer who "hits it easy".
>
> Most of them.
>
> Have you ever actually watched golf? Played it? I have to ask
> because your argument is stunningly ignorant.
>
> --
> Chris Bellomy
> C-List Charter Member
> http://clist.org/

I used to watch Ian Woosnam on TV and marvel at
how easily he swung and the enormous distance he got.
I got the chance to ask a pro who played regularly with
him how he did it. The reply was: "Standing next to
him on the tee you wouldn't say that. His neck bulges,
his eyes pop out and he grunts". I'd describe it as
smooth rather than easy.

Alan


From: Buford Ressup on
On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 06:46:41 -0700, dsc wrote:

>
>> Unfortunately, when I started swinging my driver that way, I lost all
>> ability to hit my irons. I've lost probably a club and a half distance
>> on all my irons since I started booming my driver.
>
> WOW... that has happend to me recently too. I started killing my driver
> with realitively little effort 300 yards (total distance) was doable. But
> don't have any idea whether my wedge is going 80 yards or 115 yards...
>
>> It can be embarrassing,
>> really. Our first two holes are par 4s, and if I'm really on, I'll hit
>> 270-290 yard drives on them.
>
> I know what you mean... 280-300 yard drive followed by an 80 yard wedge
> when a 100 yards wedge was needed. It sucks. On the next go around add one
> to the wedge try to make the same swing, thin it slightly and airmail the
> green. Sheesh... I've got to get this straghtened out in the next couple
> of weeks. :)

I probably didn't describe my problem very well. It's not that I'm
misjudging my irons and hitting 80 yards when I meant to hit 100. It's
that I'm *unable* to hit my irons anywhere near as far as I was before I
started hitting my driver long. I can barely hit my PW 100 yards now, and
that's if I catch it just right. My 8-iron, which used to be my 150 yard
club, is now 120-130, and I'm giving it everything I've got. Even when it
feels like I hit it perfectly, right on the sweet spot, it's at least 20
yards shorter than it used to be.

It's weird and I'm completely baffled.

From: rich on
Maybe...try..."hit it easy" on your irons, too. I am amazed at the
distance I am now getting (even with some accuracy)..when I apply the same
"hit it easy" process on my irons. Of course, all of this is just a few
rounds old.....so...who knows what I'll be doing next week? I'll try again
tomorrow. Rich
-
RichG TX IL
Manager http://groups.msn.com/CarolinaSkiffOwners/


From: dsc on

Buford Ressup wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 06:46:41 -0700, dsc wrote:
>
> >
> >> Unfortunately, when I started swinging my driver that way, I lost all
> >> ability to hit my irons. I've lost probably a club and a half distance
> >> on all my irons since I started booming my driver.
> >
> > WOW... that has happend to me recently too. I started killing my driver
> > with realitively little effort 300 yards (total distance) was doable. But
> > don't have any idea whether my wedge is going 80 yards or 115 yards...
> >
> >> It can be embarrassing,
> >> really. Our first two holes are par 4s, and if I'm really on, I'll hit
> >> 270-290 yard drives on them.
> >
> > I know what you mean... 280-300 yard drive followed by an 80 yard wedge
> > when a 100 yards wedge was needed. It sucks. On the next go around add one
> > to the wedge try to make the same swing, thin it slightly and airmail the
> > green. Sheesh... I've got to get this straghtened out in the next couple
> > of weeks. :)
>
> I probably didn't describe my problem very well. It's not that I'm
> misjudging my irons and hitting 80 yards when I meant to hit 100. It's
> that I'm *unable* to hit my irons anywhere near as far as I was before I
> started hitting my driver long. I can barely hit my PW 100 yards now, and
> that's if I catch it just right. My 8-iron, which used to be my 150 yard
> club, is now 120-130, and I'm giving it everything I've got. Even when it
> feels like I hit it perfectly, right on the sweet spot, it's at least 20
> yards shorter than it used to be.

One thing that could happen when you swing easier/more smoothly is you
can loose your lag and relase early adding loft to the club. I think
the shorter length of the wedges amplifies this effect.