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From: BAR on 6 Aug 2010 21:44 In article <379cd9a3-cb0f-4d73-a93e-40fb57d8e5f9 @t2g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says... > > On Aug 6, 8:29�pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > In article <fb32bf92-5c3d-400b-becf-d1777d7fbb91 > > @q35g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says... > > > > > > > > > > The resulting reorganizations would have take care of the unemployment > > > > issue. Those re-employed would not have been union employees due to the > > > > new plants being built in right to work states. > > > > > > Again, having companies that are no longer responsive to their customers > > > > needs and unable to respond fast enough to the changing markets are > > > > doomed to fail. If the companies cannot change then the only solution is > > > > to go out of business or be purchased by someone else. > > > > > This is pure conjecture. �How does a company in Chapter 11 come up > > > with billions of dollars to build new plants? And how long would it > > > take to build them and bring them online? > > > > I wouldn't expect you to understand how baknruptcy works. > > In other words, you don't know. In other words I've been through bankruptcy with a couple of companies. 1 survived and the other was liqudated. Meaning one had value even tho it was poorly run and the other had no value and it was poorly run too. That's the way it goes in the real world. Oh, and lots of people lost their jobs from both companies.
From: William Clark on 6 Aug 2010 22:14 In article <MPG.26c672f518889c2f98a1d5(a)news.giganews.com>, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <fb32bf92-5c3d-400b-becf-d1777d7fbb91 > @q35g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says... > > > > > > The resulting reorganizations would have take care of the unemployment > > > issue. Those re-employed would not have been union employees due to the > > > new plants being built in right to work states. > > > > > > Again, having companies that are no longer responsive to their customers > > > needs and unable to respond fast enough to the changing markets are > > > doomed to fail. If the companies cannot change then the only solution is > > > to go out of business or be purchased by someone else. > > > > This is pure conjecture. How does a company in Chapter 11 come up > > with billions of dollars to build new plants? And how long would it > > take to build them and bring them online? > > > > I wouldn't expect you to understand how baknruptcy works. No, but we understand how "bankruptcy" works, though :-)
From: MG on 9 Aug 2010 20:04 "dsc-ky" <Dudley.Cornman(a)eku.edu> wrote in message news:3f2ee47f-66dd-48ed-9a37-93fc4ce35135(a)g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com... > On Aug 4, 1:22 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: >> In article >> <960e79b4-7fa7-4b54-8bd5-b9b34c01b...(a)14g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, >> >> dsc-ky <Dudley.Corn...(a)eku.edu> wrote: >> > On Aug 3, 10:28 pm, George Orwell <nob...(a)mixmaster.it> wrote: >> > > Innocent people will die. >> >> > Innocent people die every day... that's just part of life... >> >> Yes, but most of us think it is something worth fighting... > > Up to a point... then the costs become too high. Wow, sounds like a Republican Congress will appoint itself as one big.....wait for it....DEATH PANEL.
From: MG on 9 Aug 2010 20:07
"John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:52959449-caff-4a47-8bde-3619e3e5bd71(a)m1g2000yqo.googlegroups.com... > On Aug 4, 5:46 pm, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote: >> "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:0bfb8dd8-47d3-4bbb-9047-ed16d676c930(a)s9g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... >> On Aug 4, 3:52 pm, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message >> >> >news:alangbaker-CD69E0.11575304082010(a)news.shawcable.com... >> >> > > In article >> > > <a78ef6da-c403-4b76-8952-6a6acd495...(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, >> > > dsc-ky <Dudley.Corn...(a)eku.edu> wrote: >> >> > >> I've had quite a while to think about Bummer Care. Callous or not, >> > >> that's my opinion. >> > >> Probably the majority of people in the US agree that the Bummer Care >> > >> is a bad plan and not worth what it will cost in $. There's not even >> > >> any conclusive proof that it will be better at saving any of those >> > >> innocent lives you are worried about. It doesn't even kick in for 10 >> > >> years. Wanna bet that the government finds a way to raid that fund >> > >> too >> > >> (like others)... and it never actually kicks in at all? >> >> > > Nope. >> >> > > That's not my point. >> >> > > Someone says: "This will cost lives", and your reply is: "Meh.". >> >> > > Justify it to yourself any way you like. >> >> > The majority of Americans didn't want Obama care. A majority of >> > Americans >> > have opposed all of Obama's major policies. The polls aren't secret. It >> > isn't a surprise that Obama is polling at 41% approval if all of his >> > major >> > policies were against the wishes of the majority of Americans. >> >> > It will be refreshing to have a government of the people by the people >> > for >> > the people instead of a government of the government by the government >> > for >> > the government. >> >> > The saving lives line is a canard. We all die. >> >> If a majority of Americans have opposed all of Obama's major policies, >> then why did a majority of Americans elect him to be president? He >> said during the campaign that he wanted to do health care, he wanted >> to do a stimulus package, he wanted to do financial services reform. >> So what happened? Did people change their minds about what they wanted? >> *********************************************************** >> >> I don't know why anybody voted for Obama. I am certainly not a mind >> reader. >> I can read the polls and so can you. > > I know why people voted for him. What I don't understand is why he's > being beaten up for doing exactly what he said he would do. You got > any insight into that? Many people, myself included, are disappointed in the bill as passed. I wish he had vetoed it. So I would be down as disapproving, because I think it wasn't anywhere near enough. Polls can be influenced simply by the wording of the questions. |