From: William Clark on
In article <4c64047e$0$4972$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 06:54:55 -0500, Moderate wrote:
> > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:4c634830$0$14243$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
> >> On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 20:56:16 -0400, BAR wrote:
> >>> In article <wclark2-D02BAB.19501711082010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
> >>> state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says...
> >>>> In article <4c631edb$0$4846$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> >>>> Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 15:44:16 -0500, bknight wrote:
> >>>>>> On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 12:46:47 -0700 (PDT), dsc-ky
> >>>>>> <Dudley.Cornman(a)eku.edu> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Aug 11, 3:18Â pm, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> "R&B" <none_of_your_busin...(a)all.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> You want an apology for eight years of prosperity?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Eight years of prosperity? Â I guess you forgot about Clinton's
> >>>>>>>> recession in 2000.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Times were pretty good in the Clinton years (for whatever reason -
> >>>>>>> just pure luck most likely).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The "recession" (commonly thought of as a non- recession because
> >>>>>> it was hardly noticed) was actually in 2001.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_08/b3871044.htm
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Clinton was hardly perfect but he was a good President, especially
> >>>>> compared to what came before and after. I don't care that he screwed
> >>>>> his interns. I do care that, unlike either Bush, he actually managed
> >>>>> to balance the budget.
> >>>>
> >>>> Or that he actually knew what a budget was.
> >>>
> >>> Balancing the budget is just a matter of accounting. Any competent
> >>> accountant can "balance" a budget.
> >>
> >> If it's as easy as that the Republicans should hire some right away.
> >
> > Republican's haven't been in control of the budget for four years.
> > There is no budget.
>
> You think Democrats were behind the Bush tax cuts and the quagmire in
> the middle east? Wow. You really are paranoid.

Not really, he's just in denial.
From: William Clark on
In article <4c640713$0$4970$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 07:11:58 -0500, Moderate wrote:
> > "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:wclark2-45211A.19495111082010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> >> In article
> >> <2136368492303258134.769901nospam-nomail.com(a)news.suddenlink.net>,
> >> Moderate <nospam(a)nomail.com> wrote:
> >>> William Clark <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote:
> >>>> In article <i3ud1o$la$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>, "Moderate"
> >>>> <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> "R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:2010081023240999746-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Actually, you're wrong. This is one more place where the left
> >>>>>> and right differs. While the right likes to "stand by their man"
> >>>>>> even when he's demonstrably behaving like an idiot, the left will
> >>>>>> not hesitate to call out their leaders when their leaders fail to
> >>>>>> do what we elected them to do.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So sayeth the Bill Clinton apologists.
> >>>>
> >>>> Er, I think Clinton was elected to make life better by creating a
> >>>> strong economy for Americans to enjoy. That he palpably did, so he
> >>>> justified the support and there is nothing to apologize for. The
> >>>> fact that your boy pissed it all away within eight years still
> >>>> sticks in your craw.
> >>>>
> >>>> The Lewinski nonsense was just the GoP hypocrites (yes, that's you
> >>>> Mssrs. Gingrich, Burton, etc.) trying to bring him down by whatever
> >>>> means they could.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for perfectly making my point. I knew you would not
> >>> disappoint :-)
> >>
> >> We aim to please. Too bad you didn't actually have a point - at
> >> least, not one supported by any cogent facts.
> >
> > You are my fact as well as several others who have posted in this
> > thread.
> >
> > Now I would agree that there is not much point in pointing out an
> > error in one of RB's posts, but this one was a slow pitch right over
> > the center of the plate. It was an easy homer.
>
> Well immoderate, why don't you spell it out for everyone? If you've
> forgotten, the argument was that Clinton was an effective President even
> though he tried to screw everything that moved and then lied about it.
> You see, among the sane his behavior was seen as douchey but not nearly
> as bad as misleading the country into a war that so far has cost
> hundreds of billions of dollars and thousands of lives. Or his "let's
> cut taxes and print more money" economic policies. Or their endless
> bungling of their handling of detainees. Et cetera.

Or his single-handed assault on the English language.
From: William Clark on
In article <4c640797$0$4991$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 09:28:02 -0400, William Clark wrote:
> > In article <i40oeb$8tr$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>, "Moderate"
> > <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
> >> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> news:wclark2-45211A.19495111082010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> >>> In article
> >>> <2136368492303258134.769901nospam-nomail.com(a)news.suddenlink.net>,
> >>> Moderate <nospam(a)nomail.com> wrote:
> >>>> William Clark <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote:
> >>>>> In article <i3ud1o$la$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>, "Moderate"
> >>>>> <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> "R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>> news:2010081023240999746-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Actually, you're wrong. This is one more place where the left
> >>>>>>> and right differs. While the right likes to "stand by their
> >>>>>>> man" even when he's demonstrably behaving like an idiot, the
> >>>>>>> left will not hesitate to call out their leaders when their
> >>>>>>> leaders fail to do what we elected them to do.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So sayeth the Bill Clinton apologists.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Er, I think Clinton was elected to make life better by creating a
> >>>>> strong economy for Americans to enjoy. That he palpably did, so he
> >>>>> justified the support and there is nothing to apologize for. The
> >>>>> fact that your boy pissed it all away within eight years still
> >>>>> sticks in your craw.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The Lewinski nonsense was just the GoP hypocrites (yes, that's you
> >>>>> Mssrs. Gingrich, Burton, etc.) trying to bring him down by
> >>>>> whatever means they could.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for perfectly making my point. I knew you would not
> >>>> disappoint :-)
> >>>
> >>> We aim to please. Too bad you didn't actually have a point - at
> >>> least, not one supported by any cogent facts.
> >>
> >> You are my fact as well as several others who have posted in this
> >> thread.
> >>
> >> Now I would agree that there is not much point in pointing out an
> >> error in one of RB's posts, but this one was a slow pitch right over
> >> the center of the plate. It was an easy homer.
> >
> > Which gives a glaring insight into what passes for your IQ.
>
> It was certified by the internet.

He certainly should be certified, all right.
From: Carbon on
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 09:47:23 -0500, Moderate wrote:
> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:4c64047e$0$4972$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
>> On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 06:54:55 -0500, Moderate wrote:
>>> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4c634830$0$14243$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>>> On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 20:56:16 -0400, BAR wrote:
>>>>> In article <wclark2-D02BAB.19501711082010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
>>>>> state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says...
>>>>>> In article <4c631edb$0$4846$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
>>>>>> Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 15:44:16 -0500, bknight wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 12:46:47 -0700 (PDT), dsc-ky
>>>>>>>> <Dudley.Cornman(a)eku.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 11, 3:18Â pm, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "R&B" <none_of_your_busin...(a)all.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You want an apology for eight years of prosperity?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Eight years of prosperity? Â I guess you forgot about Clinton's
>>>>>>>>>> recession in 2000.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Times were pretty good in the Clinton years (for whatever reason
>>>>>>>>> - just pure luck most likely).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The "recession" (commonly thought of as a non- recession because
>>>>>>>> it was hardly noticed) was actually in 2001.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_08/b3871044.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Clinton was hardly perfect but he was a good President, especially
>>>>>>> compared to what came before and after. I don't care that he
>>>>>>> screwed his interns. I do care that, unlike either Bush, he
>>>>>>> actually managed to balance the budget.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or that he actually knew what a budget was.
>>>>>
>>>>> Balancing the budget is just a matter of accounting. Any competent
>>>>> accountant can "balance" a budget.
>>>>
>>>> If it's as easy as that the Republicans should hire some right away.
>>>
>>> Republican's haven't been in control of the budget for four years.
>>> There is no budget.
>>
>> You think Democrats were behind the Bush tax cuts and the quagmire in
>> the middle east? Wow. You really are paranoid.
>
> Tax revenue went up after the Bush tax cuts. Only one Democrat voted
> against the authorization to send troops.

Tax revenue went up, huh? I will enjoy reading your cite on that, as
well as your reasoned discussion on said tax cut's effect on the deficit
in light of the Bush regime's decision to invade a country which had
nothing to do with 9/11.

If the above has gotten you lost, here it is again: tax cut + expensive
foreign wars = deficit. In case no one has told you, deficits are bad.
From: MNMikeW on

"Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4c6417fc$0$4990$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
> In case no one has told you, deficits are bad.

Somebody might want to tell Obama that.