From: Howard Brazee on
On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 17:28:49 -0700 (PDT), Dinosaur_Sr
<frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote:

> The Death Panel thing is a good one to work on though, because anyone
>who says they aren't going to be part of the system is lying. They
>have to be there; someone has to allocate resources; you can't just
>give everyone top quality care; we can't afford it, and we all know
>it.

Current insurance companies allocate which public care they are
willing to pay for with the very old. The "Death Panel" that the
Republicans jumped on is about counseling, more in the way of adding
psychological care than anything else. Sure it is a Liberal thing
(not to mention more money to be spent), but it has nothing to do with
allocating care.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison
From: Bobby Knight on
On 03 Sep 2009 01:12:36 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:32:38 -0700, Dinosaur_Sr wrote:
>> On Sep 1, 11:42�pm, assimil...(a)borg.org wrote:
>>> On �1-Sep-2009, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> No. Her career is mostly smoke and mirrors. She is largely incapable
>>>> of rational thought.
>>>
>>> this is just silly. you've no doubt read all the fashionable
>>> criticism and you think you know what she's capable of. A little
>>> knowledge is a dangerous thing.
>>
>> These people talk to each other, convince each other of something, and
>> thus it must be true! Sub Prime loans are a great example of social
>> activism! No harm to them at all...and look at the wonderful benefits!
>>
>> They also hate self made people like Palin...we need proteges of the
>> system, like Obama! You can't trust people who can make things happen
>> on their own! We know E. Kennedy got kicked out of Harvard for
>> cheating, and after getting a degree from Harvard..in the
>> 1950's...went to UVa law school, no doubt a popular choice for all the
>> top Harvard grads! Did not Biden get involved in some cheating
>> himself? Great academic examples!
>
>Wow, that all sounds pretty bad. Yet they all seem like Rhodes Scholars
>compared to Palin. Five or six different schools to get some sort of
>bullshit BA. Be serious for once in your life. She's a joke. Admit it.

Admit? Rob? He's just one of the goats that she's fooled.

BK
From: Carbon on
On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 01:57:55 +0000, Bobby Knight wrote:
> On 03 Sep 2009 01:12:36 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com>
> wrote:
>>On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:32:38 -0700, Dinosaur_Sr wrote:
>>> On Sep 1, 11:42 pm, assimil...(a)borg.org wrote:
>>>> On  1-Sep-2009, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> No. Her career is mostly smoke and mirrors. She is largely
>>>>> incapable of rational thought.
>>>>
>>>> this is just silly. you've no doubt read all the fashionable
>>>> criticism and you think you know what she's capable of. A little
>>>> knowledge is a dangerous thing.
>>>
>>> These people talk to each other, convince each other of something,
>>> and thus it must be true! Sub Prime loans are a great example of
>>> social activism! No harm to them at all...and look at the wonderful
>>> benefits!
>>>
>>> They also hate self made people like Palin...we need proteges of the
>>> system, like Obama! You can't trust people who can make things
>>> happen on their own! We know E. Kennedy got kicked out of Harvard
>>> for cheating, and after getting a degree from Harvard..in the
>>> 1950's...went to UVa law school, no doubt a popular choice for all
>>> the top Harvard grads! Did not Biden get involved in some cheating
>>> himself? Great academic examples!
>>
>>Wow, that all sounds pretty bad. Yet they all seem like Rhodes
>>Scholars compared to Palin. Five or six different schools to get some
>>sort of bullshit BA. Be serious for once in your life. She's a joke.
>>Admit it.
>
> Admit? Rob? He's just one of the goats that she's fooled.

If he had to actually listen to Palin's bullshit in person, I have no
doubt he'd bored and looking for the exits pretty much immediately.

I'm assuming he's not an idiot. I might be wrong.
From: gray asphalt on

"Howard Brazee" <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote in message
news:ar7u95tu73u6hegjods8csud55cd581hg1(a)4ax.com...
> On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 17:28:49 -0700 (PDT), Dinosaur_Sr
> <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote:
>
>> The Death Panel thing is a good one to work on though, because anyone
>>who says they aren't going to be part of the system is lying. They
>>have to be there; someone has to allocate resources; you can't just
>>give everyone top quality care; we can't afford it, and we all know
>>it.
>
> Current insurance companies allocate which public care they are
> willing to pay for with the very old. The "Death Panel" that the
> Republicans jumped on is about counseling, more in the way of adding
> psychological care than anything else. Sure it is a Liberal thing
> (not to mention more money to be spent), but it has nothing to do with
> allocating care.
>
> --
> "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
> than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
> to the legislature, and not to the executive department."
>
> - James Madison

My information is that the counseling on end of
life issues is gone from the proposal and that it
was offered by a Republican in the first place.
Please correct me, if that is not the case.


From: gray asphalt on

"Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4a9ef43c$0$5657$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
> On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 04:42:02 +0000, assimilate wrote:
>> On 1-Sep-2009, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> No. Her career is mostly smoke and mirrors. She is largely incapable
>>> of rational thought.
>>
>> this is just silly. you've no doubt read all the fashionable criticism
>> and you think you know what she's capable of. A little knowledge is a
>> dangerous thing.
>
> Bullshit. If you have any evidence of competence by all means share.

She stood up to the big oil interests re: Alaska.
Imo, she has some character but doesn't have an
education.


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