From: MNMikeW on

<bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
news:t0r5n5p0rqtbvb996t2osh36i1q37srr1e(a)4ax.com...
> On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 11:20:51 -0600, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message
>>news:clark-7B4C41.10431410022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
>>> In article <7tg213Fck6U1(a)mid.individual.net>,
>>> "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message
>>>> news:clark-939D9E.09435910022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
>>>> >
>>>> > You seem to forget that I am a European, and they tend to be better
>>>> > drivers to start with.
>>>>
>>>> You wouldnt last 15 mins up here Clark if you think 4" of snow is a
>>>> blizzard.
>>>
>>> I don't - like I said, a year in Houghton, MI, and this is a joke.
>>> Unfortunately, the standard of driving is not.
>>
>>Its similar here. Seems to take all winter for people to get their winter
>>driving skills working again. And some never aquire them.
>>
> At worst we only have a couple of ice storms every few years here, and
> its quasi-suicidal to get on the roads unless you have to. One reason
> is that bubbas think that four-wheel drive means that you can drive
> as usual.
>
Yes 4wd on ice just gets you into the ditch quicker.


From: Dinosaur_Sr on
On Feb 10, 10:43 am, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-
state.edu> wrote:
> In article <7tg213Fck...(a)mid.individual.net>,
>
>  "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> > "William Clark" <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message
> >news:clark-939D9E.09435910022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
>
> > > You seem to forget that I am a European, and they tend to be better
> > > drivers to start with.
>
> > You wouldnt last 15 mins up here Clark if you think 4" of snow is a
> > blizzard.
>
> I don't - like I said, a year in Houghton, MI, and this is a joke.
> Unfortunately, the standard of driving is not.

It's amazing to see people driving 50MPH on these winding 2 lane roads
in the mountains on snow and ice.
From: William Clark on
In article
<f2d191cf-20df-4ba3-9823-9451f5f50495(a)u9g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote:

> On Feb 10, 10:43�am, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-
> state.edu> wrote:
> > In article <7tg213Fck...(a)mid.individual.net>,
> >
> > �"MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> > > "William Clark" <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message
> > >news:clark-939D9E.09435910022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> >
> > > > You seem to forget that I am a European, and they tend to be better
> > > > drivers to start with.
> >
> > > You wouldnt last 15 mins up here Clark if you think 4" of snow is a
> > > blizzard.
> >
> > I don't - like I said, a year in Houghton, MI, and this is a joke.
> > Unfortunately, the standard of driving is not.
>
> It's amazing to see people driving 50MPH on these winding 2 lane roads
> in the mountains on snow and ice.

I navigated once for a Finnish rally driver. he was doing 70-80mph on a
windy two lane road, covered in ice. Amazing.
From: William Clark on
In article <7tg87mFhl7U1(a)mid.individual.net>,
"MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:

> "William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message
> news:clark-7B4C41.10431410022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> > In article <7tg213Fck6U1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> > "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message
> >> news:clark-939D9E.09435910022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> >> >
> >> > You seem to forget that I am a European, and they tend to be better
> >> > drivers to start with.
> >>
> >> You wouldnt last 15 mins up here Clark if you think 4" of snow is a
> >> blizzard.
> >
> > I don't - like I said, a year in Houghton, MI, and this is a joke.
> > Unfortunately, the standard of driving is not.
>
> Its similar here. Seems to take all winter for people to get their winter
> driving skills working again. And some never aquire them.

But they are experts on the cell phone and mascara. Even on winter roads.
From: Dinosaur_Sr on
On Feb 10, 2:40 pm, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-
state.edu> wrote:
> In article
> <f2d191cf-20df-4ba3-9823-9451f5f50...(a)u9g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>  Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote:
> > On Feb 10, 10:43 am, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-
> > state.edu> wrote:
> > > In article <7tg213Fck...(a)mid.individual.net>,
>
> > >  "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> > > > "William Clark" <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message
> > > >news:clark-939D9E.09435910022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
>
> > > > > You seem to forget that I am a European, and they tend to be better
> > > > > drivers to start with.
>
> > > > You wouldnt last 15 mins up here Clark if you think 4" of snow is a
> > > > blizzard.
>
> > > I don't - like I said, a year in Houghton, MI, and this is a joke.
> > > Unfortunately, the standard of driving is not.
>
> > It's amazing to see people driving 50MPH on these winding 2 lane roads
> > in the mountains on snow and ice.
>
> I navigated once for a Finnish rally driver. he was doing 70-80mph on a
> windy two lane road, covered in ice. Amazing.

That must be them out practicing!

;^)