From: William Clark on
In article <4bbd01a7$0$4955$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 07:31:11 -0400, BAR wrote:
>
> > Have you seen the recent numbers for the three major networks
> > newscasts? All of them are down double digits in viewer ship. Fox
> > News is the only one increasing viewer ship, why is that?
>
> Unfortunately, spectacle will always win out over substance.
>
> On the other hand, popularity is a poor measure of quality.

Indeed, it's because Fox News is not a news channel, it's an
entertainment channel for the hard of thinking. Apples and oranges.
From: BAR on
In article <clark-F81C4F.08010608042010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says...
>
> In article <4bbd01a7$0$4955$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 07:31:11 -0400, BAR wrote:
> >
> > > Have you seen the recent numbers for the three major networks
> > > newscasts? All of them are down double digits in viewer ship. Fox
> > > News is the only one increasing viewer ship, why is that?
> >
> > Unfortunately, spectacle will always win out over substance.
> >
> > On the other hand, popularity is a poor measure of quality.
>
> Indeed, it's because Fox News is not a news channel, it's an
> entertainment channel for the hard of thinking. Apples and oranges.

So the election of Obama was a popularity contents and it is not a
measure of his quality.
From: John B. on
On Apr 8, 6:39 am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> In article <ax8vn.27450$3D3.23...(a)newsfe19.iad>, NoS...(a)NoThanks.net
> says...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "BAR" <sc...(a)you.com> wrote in message
> >news:MPG.2626db0beecff47c989db5(a)news.giganews.com...
> > > In article <yP6vn.306035$OX4.117...(a)newsfe25.iad>, NoS...(a)NoThanks.net
> > > says...
> > >> The nature of the "loophole" doesn't alter the fact that it represents
> > >> billions in revenue for the various companies. IT was a reduction in
> > >> the expense associated with a specific benefit, whose expressed
> > >> purpose was to sustain the benefit. Now that the loophole is gone, the
> > >> benefit too will go.
>
> > >> My understanding is that this particular thing was associated with the
> > >> Bush administrations free drugs for seniors program, and this program
> > >> saved them money by maintaining a class of seniors who got their drug
> > >> money from another source...it was/is apparently cheaper this way than
> > >> having the govt directly subsidize the seniors.
>
> > >> This will pull billions from salary expenses from various businesses
> > >> and cannot have any other effect than reducing jobs and/or benefits,
> > >> depending on how they want to make up the revenue shortfall.
>
> > >> ===
> > >> It was a gift to the large companies that has been closed -- simple as
> > >> that -- maybe YOU like handing over $$ & then letting them write it off
> > >> as
> > >> an expense --- if so - you must be a give it away & borrow type
>
> > > Tax policy should encourage employment rather than discourage
> > > employment. Screwing the big companies only results in screwing the
> > > "worker", the guy Obama says he is trying to help.
>
> > > How many people were hired by the poor today?
>
> > Let's give AT&T all of your money then.
>
> Seriously. Why is their a desire and emphasis from the left to screw and
> or kill the employers? Employers should be worshiped for their ability
> to generate more taxpayers, more revenues for local, state and federal
> coffers. You should be out there encouraging full employment to maximize
> tax revenue.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

Yes, I worship my employer every day. I kneel down before him in
prayerful reverence.
From: William Clark on
In article <MPG.26279836e0018611989dc2(a)news.giganews.com>,
BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:

> In article <clark-F81C4F.08010608042010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
> state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says...
> >
> > In article <4bbd01a7$0$4955$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> > Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 07:31:11 -0400, BAR wrote:
> > >
> > > > Have you seen the recent numbers for the three major networks
> > > > newscasts? All of them are down double digits in viewer ship. Fox
> > > > News is the only one increasing viewer ship, why is that?
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, spectacle will always win out over substance.
> > >
> > > On the other hand, popularity is a poor measure of quality.
> >
> > Indeed, it's because Fox News is not a news channel, it's an
> > entertainment channel for the hard of thinking. Apples and oranges.
>
> So the election of Obama was a popularity contents and it is not a
> measure of his quality.

A "popularity contents"?

Another crashing non sequitur from our resident expert in them.
From: Kommienezuspadt on

"BAR" <screw(a)you.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.26277c7c88830f44989dba(a)news.giganews.com...
> In article <ax8vn.27450$3D3.23397(a)newsfe19.iad>, NoSpam(a)NoThanks.net
> says...
>>
>> "BAR" <screw(a)you.com> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.2626db0beecff47c989db5(a)news.giganews.com...
>> > In article <yP6vn.306035$OX4.117716(a)newsfe25.iad>, NoSpam(a)NoThanks.net
>> > says...
>> >> The nature of the "loophole" doesn't alter the fact that it represents
>> >> billions in revenue for the various companies. IT was a reduction in
>> >> the expense associated with a specific benefit, whose expressed
>> >> purpose was to sustain the benefit. Now that the loophole is gone, the
>> >> benefit too will go.
>> >>
>> >> My understanding is that this particular thing was associated with the
>> >> Bush administrations free drugs for seniors program, and this program
>> >> saved them money by maintaining a class of seniors who got their drug
>> >> money from another source...it was/is apparently cheaper this way than
>> >> having the govt directly subsidize the seniors.
>> >>
>> >> This will pull billions from salary expenses from various businesses
>> >> and cannot have any other effect than reducing jobs and/or benefits,
>> >> depending on how they want to make up the revenue shortfall.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ===
>> >> It was a gift to the large companies that has been closed -- simple as
>> >> that -- maybe YOU like handing over $$ & then letting them write it
>> >> off
>> >> as
>> >> an expense --- if so - you must be a give it away & borrow type
>> >>
>> >
>> > Tax policy should encourage employment rather than discourage
>> > employment. Screwing the big companies only results in screwing the
>> > "worker", the guy Obama says he is trying to help.
>> >
>> > How many people were hired by the poor today?
>>
>> Let's give AT&T all of your money then.
>
> Seriously. Why is their a desire and emphasis from the left to screw and
> or kill the employers? Employers should be worshiped for their ability
> to generate more taxpayers, more revenues for local, state and federal
> coffers. You should be out there encouraging full employment to maximize
> tax revenue.


How is it screwing them?

The crazy law (written by Repubs) gave them a 28% subsidy to buy insurance
AND let them write off the total cost of the insurance while keeping your
tax money.

So -- why not give them all of your money?