From: Don Kirkman on 5 Sep 2008 17:50
It seems to me I heard somewhere that William Clark wrote in article
>There is NO distinction between McCain and Bush. McCain even stole his
>"maverick" (or as one GOP placard at last night's speech had it -
>"mavrick") tag from John Kasich, and it only appeared in 1998 or so. He
>has voted 90+% of the time on the Bush ticket, and he has been a
>Washington insider for 25 years, creating this mess. Now he wants people
>to believe that he will suddenly morph into a reformer to sweep away the
>mistakes of the Bush years? Right. He probably changes clothes in a
>telephone booth, too.
They all seemingly stole "maverick" from the Texas congressman Maury
Maverick, whose grandfather refused to brand his cattle while
introducing "maverick" to the language. Maury created the word
"gobbledegook" to describe politicalese, earned the Silver Star in WW
I, went to Congress in 1934, championed FDR, and angered John Nance
Garner. Not bad, even for an independent Texican Democrat.
From: Jeffrey A. Setaro on 5 Sep 2008 19:06
On Fri, 05 Sep 2008 10:15:36 -0400, William Clark
>In article <8W9wk.9729$676.5484(a)newsfe01.iad>,
> "Frank Ketchum" <nospamforme(a)thanksanyway.net> wrote:
>> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
>> > Does anyone seriously want Palin as President? Yikes.
>> Yeah, she only has and 80% job approval rating in Alaska.
>Right, and Alaska is so much in touch with mainstream America. So much
>so, in fact, that she has been involved in meetings of a movement to
>secede from the Union.
Wrong, Palin is not and never has been a member of the Alaska
Be sure to look at the PDF copy of her voter registration.
From: Jack Hollis on 5 Sep 2008 19:58
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 01:28:02 GMT, assimilate(a)borg.org wrote:
>> The reason, of course, they keep dancing around this is that they have no
>> new ideas,
>And "The One" has new ideas? Everthing he proposes could be right out of the
>New Deal or the Great Society, talk about stale.
If you want to see how completely devoid the Democrats are for new
ideas, here are some quotes from the 1956 Democratic Platform.
"Our people have now learned that the party of Lincoln has been made
captive to big businessmen with small minds. They have found that they
are now ruled by a Government which they did not elect, and to which
they have not given their consent."
"From the wreckage of American world leadership under a Republican
Administration, this great Democratic Congress has salvaged a portion
of the world prestige our Nation enjoyed ..."
"Our friends abroad now doubt our sincerity. They have seen the solid
assurance of collective security under a Democratic Administration
give place to the uncertainties of personal diplomacy. They have seen
the ties of our international alliances and friendship weakened by
inept Republican maneuvering."
"The United Nations is indispensable for the maintenance of world
peace and for the settlement of controversies between nations small
and large. We pledge our every effort to strengthen its usefulness and
expand its role as guide and guardian of international security and
peace. We deplore the Republicans' tendency to use the United Nations
only when it suits them, ignoring or by passing it whenever they
"America's long tradition of hospitality and asylum for those seeking
freedom, opportunity, and escape from oppression, has been besmirched
by the delays, failures and broken promises of the Republican
Administration. The Democratic Party favors prompt revision of the
immigration and nationality laws to eliminate unfair provisions under
which admissions to this country depend upon quotas based upon the
accident of national origin. We also favor more liberal admission of
relatives to eliminate the unnecessary tragedies of broken families."
"Substituting deceptive slogans and dismal deeds for the Democratic
program, the Republicans have been telling the American people that
"we are now more prosperous than ever before in peacetime." For the
American farmer, the small businessman and the low-income worker, the
old people living on a pittance, the young people seeking an American
standard of education, and the minority groups seeking full employment
opportunity at adequate wages, this tall tale of Republican prosperity
has been an illusion."
It amazes me that anyone with half a brain over the age of 30 could
actually think that either Obama or McCain is actually going to change
anything. I know there are people around here who are very emotional
about this election, but the bottom line is that it really doesn't
matter that much who wins. I see McCain as the lesser of two evils,
but I wont lose any sleep if Obama wins.
From: Jack Hollis on 5 Sep 2008 20:16
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 11:08:59 -0700 (PDT), "John B."
>Perhaps you should do a little research about how much oil the US has
>and how much it consumes. While you're at it, look at the Energy
>Information Administration's estimates of how much oil there is under
>ANWR and offshore, how long it would take to get it from the ground to
>the gas pumps, how long it would last, and what effect it would have
>on gas prices.
It it's absurd for the US not to drill for all the oil it can get its
hands on. It should have been done years ago and we wouldn't be in
the fix we're in today. All the Presidents back to Nixon share the
blame for lack of leadership on this issue.
From: Carbon on 5 Sep 2008 20:38
On Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:58:04 -0400, Jack Hollis wrote:
> It amazes me that anyone with half a brain over the age of 30 could
> actually think that either Obama or McCain is actually going to change
> anything. I know there are people around here who are very emotional
> about this election, but the bottom line is that it really doesn't
> matter that much who wins. I see McCain as the lesser of two evils, but
> I wont lose any sleep if Obama wins.
What about when they start handing out indictments to Cheney and the rest
of the criminals in the Bush administration?