From: Alan Baker on
In article <BvqdnUvp2IPquEDVnZ2dnUVZ_hmdnZ2d(a)centurytel.net>,
"the Moderator" <sparky(a)no_spam_engineer.com> wrote:

> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-44D54D.09515426092008(a)shawnews.vc.shawcable.net...
> > In article <6k4i0eF640asU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> > "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> It was easy to lookup, you should try it some time.
> >
> > Having actual understanding without having to look things up: you should
> > try that.
> >
> > That you couldn't simply articulate your claim without resorting to a
> > cut and paste job says much about your actual understanding.
>
> Translation: "I deal in opinion not facts."

No.

I understand the facts. You couldn't articulate your counter claim
without doing cut and paste.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: the Moderator on

"Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
news:alangbaker-EB5164.11495326092008(a)shawnews.vc.shawcable.net...
> In article <BvqdnUvp2IPquEDVnZ2dnUVZ_hmdnZ2d(a)centurytel.net>,
> "the Moderator" <sparky(a)no_spam_engineer.com> wrote:
>
>> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
>> news:alangbaker-44D54D.09515426092008(a)shawnews.vc.shawcable.net...
>> > In article <6k4i0eF640asU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
>> > "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> It was easy to lookup, you should try it some time.
>> >
>> > Having actual understanding without having to look things up: you
>> > should
>> > try that.
>> >
>> > That you couldn't simply articulate your claim without resorting to a
>> > cut and paste job says much about your actual understanding.
>>
>> Translation: "I deal in opinion not facts."
>
> No.
>
> I understand the facts. You couldn't articulate your counter claim
> without doing cut and paste.

It wasn't my cut and paste. That is a fact.


From: Alan Baker on
In article <QcGdnepk3uLRq0DVnZ2dnUVZ_tjinZ2d(a)centurytel.net>,
"the Moderator" <sparky(a)no_spam_engineer.com> wrote:

> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-EB5164.11495326092008(a)shawnews.vc.shawcable.net...
> > In article <BvqdnUvp2IPquEDVnZ2dnUVZ_hmdnZ2d(a)centurytel.net>,
> > "the Moderator" <sparky(a)no_spam_engineer.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> >> news:alangbaker-44D54D.09515426092008(a)shawnews.vc.shawcable.net...
> >> > In article <6k4i0eF640asU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> >> > "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> It was easy to lookup, you should try it some time.
> >> >
> >> > Having actual understanding without having to look things up: you
> >> > should
> >> > try that.
> >> >
> >> > That you couldn't simply articulate your claim without resorting to a
> >> > cut and paste job says much about your actual understanding.
> >>
> >> Translation: "I deal in opinion not facts."
> >
> > No.
> >
> > I understand the facts. You couldn't articulate your counter claim
> > without doing cut and paste.
>
> It wasn't my cut and paste. That is a fact.

My mistake.

So all you did was defend the guy whose total understanding of the
subject led him to have to do a cut and paste job.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: the Moderator on

"Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
news:alangbaker-D4A6D4.12254126092008(a)shawnews.vc.shawcable.net...
> In article <QcGdnepk3uLRq0DVnZ2dnUVZ_tjinZ2d(a)centurytel.net>,
> "the Moderator" <sparky(a)no_spam_engineer.com> wrote:
>
>> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
>> news:alangbaker-EB5164.11495326092008(a)shawnews.vc.shawcable.net...
>> > In article <BvqdnUvp2IPquEDVnZ2dnUVZ_hmdnZ2d(a)centurytel.net>,
>> > "the Moderator" <sparky(a)no_spam_engineer.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:alangbaker-44D54D.09515426092008(a)shawnews.vc.shawcable.net...
>> >> > In article <6k4i0eF640asU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
>> >> > "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It was easy to lookup, you should try it some time.
>> >> >
>> >> > Having actual understanding without having to look things up: you
>> >> > should
>> >> > try that.
>> >> >
>> >> > That you couldn't simply articulate your claim without resorting to
>> >> > a
>> >> > cut and paste job says much about your actual understanding.
>> >>
>> >> Translation: "I deal in opinion not facts."
>> >
>> > No.
>> >
>> > I understand the facts. You couldn't articulate your counter claim
>> > without doing cut and paste.
>>
>> It wasn't my cut and paste. That is a fact.
>
> My mistake.
>
> So all you did was defend the guy whose total understanding of the
> subject led him to have to do a cut and paste job.

No, I pointed out that in the face of the facts, you decided to go with your
opinion.


From: Alan Baker on
In article <HIWdneoG2rwC3EDVnZ2dnUVZ_vjinZ2d(a)centurytel.net>,
"the Moderator" <sparky(a)no_spam_engineer.com> wrote:

> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-D4A6D4.12254126092008(a)shawnews.vc.shawcable.net...
> > In article <QcGdnepk3uLRq0DVnZ2dnUVZ_tjinZ2d(a)centurytel.net>,
> > "the Moderator" <sparky(a)no_spam_engineer.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> >> news:alangbaker-EB5164.11495326092008(a)shawnews.vc.shawcable.net...
> >> > In article <BvqdnUvp2IPquEDVnZ2dnUVZ_hmdnZ2d(a)centurytel.net>,
> >> > "the Moderator" <sparky(a)no_spam_engineer.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> >> >> news:alangbaker-44D54D.09515426092008(a)shawnews.vc.shawcable.net...
> >> >> > In article <6k4i0eF640asU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> >> >> > "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> It was easy to lookup, you should try it some time.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Having actual understanding without having to look things up: you
> >> >> > should
> >> >> > try that.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > That you couldn't simply articulate your claim without resorting to
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > cut and paste job says much about your actual understanding.
> >> >>
> >> >> Translation: "I deal in opinion not facts."
> >> >
> >> > No.
> >> >
> >> > I understand the facts. You couldn't articulate your counter claim
> >> > without doing cut and paste.
> >>
> >> It wasn't my cut and paste. That is a fact.
> >
> > My mistake.
> >
> > So all you did was defend the guy whose total understanding of the
> > subject led him to have to do a cut and paste job.
>
> No, I pointed out that in the face of the facts, you decided to go with your
> opinion.

No. I didn't.

I went with the facts:

There is a new doctrine in U.S. foreign policy that allows for
preemptive self-defense. That new doctrine is articulated in the
National Security Strategy of 2006. This is fact, not opinion.

I knew this doctrine existed and what the gist of it was without need to
look anything up. Mike came along and tried to obscure the plain facts
by claiming that there were three doctrines (when all he really meant is
that the one doctrine had three elements, but then obfuscation was all
he was really after), but when pressed had to use Wikipedia to
articulate his claim. This, too, is fact.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>