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From: dene on 15 Apr 2010 17:13 "William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message news:clark-24ABC6.16412815042010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > In article <82onsaFrg3U1(a)mid.individual.net>, > "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > "William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message > > news:clark-E06CB6.07593514042010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > > > In article <82la6qF56nU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > > > "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > > >> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message > > >> news:wclark2-21D39D.21152913042010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > > >> > > >> > > > No, from where I see it, he is simply calling out a coward. > > >> > > > > >> > > Of course you see it that way. You and him are of the same ilk. > > >> > > > > >> > > -Greg > > >> > > > >> > That, of course, should be "you and he" when they are the subject of > > >> > the > > >> > sentence. Sigh. > > >> > > >> Zzzzzzzzzz........ > > >> > > >> -Greg > > > > > > Indeed, you clearly did sleep through English language classes. Among > > > others :-) > > > > "God, I'd hat to have to make excuses someone like this." > > -William Clark > > You clearly have the same problem, in your case an inability to > distinguish between bad grammar and bad typing. Ain't you got no language? Ain't you go to no good school? -Greg
From: John B. on 15 Apr 2010 17:13 On Apr 15, 2:02 pm, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote: > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:78516a00-8d1f-4ea4-a124-03a8baf99906(a)u22g2000yqf.googlegroups.com... > On Apr 15, 10:54 am, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > > > > "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > > >news:4bc50040$0$5034$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > > > > On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:39:31 -0500, MNMikeW wrote: > > >> "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > >> news:b1d3e9da-12ac-4ff1- > > >> b4e9-9cd696a4d...(a)k33g2000yqc.googlegroups.com... > > >>> On Apr 13, 2:34 pm, The Bogeyman <thbg...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >>>> Straight from crashtheteaparty.org: > > > >>>> "Whenever possible, we will act on behalf of the Tea Party in ways > > >>>> which exaggerate their least appealing qualities (misspelled protest > > >>>> signs, wild claims in TV interviews, etc.) to further distance them > > >>>> from mainstream America and damage the public's opinion of them. We > > >>>> will also use the inside information that we have gained in order to > > >>>> disrupt and derail their plans." > > > >>>> I don't know, to me it looks like that's exactly what the sign man > > >>>> did. > > > >>> I doubt that crashtheteaparty is anything more than a website. But > > >>> you'll keep trying to depict it as some kind of lynch mob, I'm sure.. > > > >> That is exactly what it is. And exactly what I would expect the left > > >> to stoop to. > > > > Mike, read the article. It's the work of one loon. > > > It was started by one loon. And he's up to 1000+ friends on Facebook and > > over 400 "followers" on Twitter. So the loons are coming out of the > > woodwork.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > 1,400 "loons" who don't like the tea party movement. So what? They > haven't done anything. If the guy in Oregon does lead people in > disrupting tea party rallies (such as the one going on right now in > DC) and trying to deprive people of their right to free speech, I will > join you in denouncing them. Until then, they are best ignored. > > =============================================== > Actually there are several groups like this out there. Would you also > denounce their tactic of using idiotic and racist signs and saying idiotic > and racist things to smear the Tea-Party? Say these loons do end up doing > this. Who do you think is going to get the media coverage?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I certainly would, but the idiotic and racists I've seen were carried by tea party people -- like Obama with a Hitler moutache. Or, "Obama's a half-breed Muslim." Or, "The zoo has an African lion and the White House has a lyin' African." Or, "Hey, Hussein. Go Back to Kenya."
From: vbowen on 11 Apr 2010 11:30 As always there is one who speaks up, one who is a good and decent man. If it were not for these good and decent people, slavery would not have been abolished, apartheid would never have ended, and much more. Subject: Read what a White Reporter wrote about President Obama AN INTERESTING READ Interesting, but read to the bottom. Read what a White Reporter wrote in a Georgia Newspaper cid:7450ADE8-D7F5-4A63-B44C-101699BE2E67 Andrew M. Manis is associate professor of history at Macon State College in Georgia and wrote this for an editorial in the Macon Telegraph. Andrew M. Manis: When Are WE Going to Get Over It? For much of the last forty years, ever since America "fixed" its race problem in the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts, we white people have been impatient with African Americans who continued to blame race for their difficulties. Often we have heard whites ask, "When are African Americans finally going to get over it? Now I want to ask: "When are we White Americans going to get over our ridiculous obsession with skin color? Recent reports that "Election Spurs Hundreds' of Race Threats, Crimes" should frighten and infuriate every one of us. Having grown up in "Bombingham," Alabama in the 1960s, I remember overhearing an avalanche of comments about what many white classmates and their parents wanted to do to John and Bobby Kennedy and Martin Luther King. Eventually, as you may recall, in all three cases, someone decided to do more than "talk the talk." Since our recent presidential election, to our eternal shame we are once again hearing the same reprehensible talk I remember from my boyhood. We white people have controlled political life in the disunited colonies and United States for some 400 years on this continent. Conservative whites have been in power 28 of the last 40 years. Even during the eight Clinton years, conservatives in Congress blocked most of his agenda and pulled him to the right. Yet never in that period did I read any headlines suggesting that anyone was calling for the assassinations of presidents Nixon, Ford, Reagan, or either of the Bushes. Criticize them, yes. Call for their impeachment, perhaps. But there were no bounties on their heads. And even when someone did try to kill Ronald Reagan, the perpetrator was non-political mental case who wanted merely to impress Jody Foster. But elect a liberal who happens to be Black and we're back in the sixties again. At this point in our history, we should be proud that we've proven what conservatives are always saying -- that in America anything is possible, EVEN electing a black man as president. But instead we now hear that school children from Maine to California are talking about wanting to "assassinate Obama." Fighting the urge to throw up, I can only ask, "How long?" How long before we white people realize we can't make our nation, much less the whole world, look like us? How long until we white people can - once and for all - get over this hell-conceived preoccupation with skin color? How long until we white people get over the demonic conviction that white skin makes us superior? How long before we white people get over our bitter resentments about being demoted to the status of equality with non-whites? How long before we get over our expectations that we should be at the head of the line merely because of our white skin? How long until we white people end our silence and call out our peers when they share the latest racist jokes in the privacy of our white-only conversations? I believe in free speech, but how long until we white people start making racist loudmouths as socially uncomfortable as we do flag burners? How long until we white people will stop insisting that blacks exercise personal responsibility, build strong families, educate themselves enough to edit the Harvard Law Review, and work hard enough to become President of the United States, only to threaten to assassinate them when they do? How long before we start "living out the true meaning" of our creeds, both civil and religious, that all men and women are created equal and that "red and yellow, black and white" all are precious in God's sight? Until this past November 4, I didn't believe this country would ever elect an African American to the presidency. I still don't believe I'll live long enough to see us white people get over our racism problem. But here's my three-point plan: First, everyday that Barack Obama lives in the White House that Black Slaves Built, I'm going to pray that God (and the Secret Service) will protect him and his family from us white people. Second, I'm going to report to the FBI any white person I overhear saying, in seriousness or in jest, anything of a threatening nature about President Obama. Third, I'm going to pray to live long enough to see America surprise the world once again, when white people can "in spirit and in truth" sing of our damnable color prejudice, "We HAVE overcome." ************************************** It takes a Village to protect our President!!! because the President of these DisUnited States happens to be a Black Man, all you "Conswervatives" need to get off his case! He took over a job that White Men "screwed up royally", and he's merely trying to straighten things out. They took "years" to foul it up -- why is he expected to "fix" it overnight??? "All" will never be happy with all decisions of any political party, but I happen to be Proud of the fact that a Black Man achieved the success of becoming the first Black President of these DisUnited States. It took one "heckofa man" to want to take over a position where he knew going in, that he would be ridiculed, berated, dogged, and, could possibly get "assassinated"?? For a Country that is supposed to have been "built" (after being stolen) on God, why can't God be allowed to do His work for His Country, and cut out all the "tea-partying" (KKK activities) in the name of Christianity?? Respectfully, George W. Garrett 214-497-8747 214-497-8747 214-497-8747 214-497-8747 Cell
From: kenpitts on 11 Apr 2010 12:04 On Apr 11, 10:30 am, "vbowen" <vbo...(a)shaw.ca> wrote: > As always there is one who speaks up, one who is a good and decent man. If > it were not for these good and decent people, slavery would not have been > abolished, apartheid would never have ended, and much more. > > Subject: Read what a White Reporter wrote about President Obama > > AN INTERESTING READ > Interesting, but read to the bottom. > > Read what a White Reporter wrote in a Georgia Newspaper > cid:7450ADE8-D7F5-4A63-B44C-101699BE2E67 > Andrew M. Manis is associate professor of history at Macon State College in > Georgia and wrote this for an editorial in the Macon Telegraph. > > Andrew M. Manis: When Are WE Going to Get Over It? > > For much of the last forty years, ever since America "fixed" its race > problem in the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts, we white people have > been impatient with African Americans who continued to blame race for their > difficulties. Often we have heard whites ask, "When are African Americans > finally going to get over it? > Now I want to ask: > "When are we White Americans going to get over our ridiculous obsession with > skin color? > Recent reports that "Election Spurs Hundreds' of Race Threats, Crimes" > should frighten and infuriate every one of us. Having grown up in > "Bombingham," Alabama in the 1960s, I remember overhearing an avalanche of > comments about what many white classmates and their parents wanted to do to > John and Bobby Kennedy and Martin Luther King. > Eventually, as you may recall, in all three cases, someone decided to do > more than "talk the talk." > > Since our recent presidential election, to our eternal shame we are once > again hearing the same reprehensible talk I remember from my boyhood. > > We white people have controlled political life in the disunited colonies and > United States for some 400 years on this continent. > Conservative whites have been in power 28 of the last 40 years. Even during > the eight Clinton years, conservatives in Congress blocked most of his > agenda and pulled him to the right. Yet never in that period did I read any > headlines suggesting that anyone was calling for the assassinations of > presidents Nixon, Ford, Reagan, or either of the Bushes. Criticize them, > yes. > Call for their impeachment, perhaps. But there were no bounties on their > heads. And even when someone did try to kill Ronald Reagan, the perpetrator > was non-political mental case who wanted merely to impress Jody Foster. > > But elect a liberal who happens to be Black and we're back in the sixties > again. At this point in our history, we should be proud that we've proven > what conservatives are always saying -- that in America anything is > possible, EVEN electing a black man as president. > But instead we now hear that school children from Maine to California are > talking about wanting to "assassinate Obama." > Fighting the urge to throw up, I can only ask, "How long?" > How long before we white people realize we can't make our nation, much less > the whole world, look like us? > How long until we white people can - once and for all - get over this > hell-conceived preoccupation with skin color? > How long until we white people get over the demonic conviction that white > skin makes us superior? > How long before we white people get over our bitter resentments about being > demoted to the status of equality with non-whites? > > How long before we get over our expectations that we should be at the head > of the line merely because of our white skin? > How long until we white people end our silence and call out our peers when > they share the latest racist jokes in the privacy of our white-only > conversations? > > I believe in free speech, but how long until we white people start making > racist loudmouths as socially uncomfortable as we do flag burners? > How long until we white people will stop insisting that blacks exercise > personal responsibility, build strong families, educate themselves enough to > edit the Harvard Law Review, and work hard enough to become President of the > United States, only to threaten to assassinate them when they do? > > How long before we start "living out the true meaning" of our creeds, both > civil and religious, that all men and women are created equal and that "red > and yellow, black and white" all are precious in God's sight? > Until this past November 4, I didn't believe this country would ever elect > an African American to the presidency. I still don't believe I'll live long > enough to see us white people get over our racism problem. > > But here's my three-point plan: > > First, everyday that Barack Obama lives in the White House that Black Slaves > Built, I'm going to pray that God (and the Secret Service) will protect him > and his family from us white people. > > Second, I'm going to report to the FBI any white person I overhear saying, > in seriousness or in jest, anything of a threatening nature about President > Obama. > > Third, I'm going to pray to live long enough to see America surprise the > world once again, when white people can "in spirit and in truth" sing of our > damnable color prejudice, > > "We HAVE overcome." > ************************************** > It takes a Village to protect our President!!! > > because the President of these DisUnited States happens to be a Black Man, > all you "Conswervatives" need to get off his case! He took over a job that > White Men "screwed up royally", and he's merely trying to straighten things > out. They took "years" to foul it up -- why is he expected to "fix" it > overnight??? "All" will never be happy with all decisions of any political > party, but I happen to be Proud of the fact that a Black Man achieved the > success of becoming the first Black President of these DisUnited States. It > took one "heckofa man" to want to take over a position where he knew going > in, that he would be ridiculed, berated, dogged, and, could possibly get > "assassinated"?? For a Country that is supposed to have been "built" (after > being stolen) on God, why can't God be allowed to do His work for His > Country, and cut out all the "tea-partying" (KKK activities) in the name of > Christianity?? > Respectfully, > > George W. Garrett > 214-497-8747 214-497-8747 214-497-8747 214-497-8747 Cell I think it is alarmist. I think it doesn't address the threats and intimidation that are coming from Obama's own camp. I think Manis didn't substantiate one single assassination threat. If he has heard such a thing, it was probably from some Georgia cracker who couldn't spell cat if you spotted him the "c" and the "a". And I think that he would have us, as conservatives, roll over and play dead, allowing Obama to implement anything he pleases. Also, I don't think it is fair to portray TEA party members as Klan members. That is about on the same level as portraying all of Hollywood or the ACLU as Communists, through and through. I work with a number of people who attend these rallies. They are nothing like that. They are demonstrating because they are Taxed Enough Already. Here are some photos from the 912 rally last September in our capitol. Looks like a pretty diverse, well behaved crowd to me. http://www.lookingattheleft.com/2009/09/conservative-woodstock-rocks-the-capital/ Stand by for November. It's going to be great. Ken
From: Dinosaur_Sr on 11 Apr 2010 12:43
On Apr 11, 12:04 pm, kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 11, 10:30 am, "vbowen" <vbo...(a)shaw.ca> wrote: > > > > > As always there is one who speaks up, one who is a good and decent man. If > > it were not for these good and decent people, slavery would not have been > > abolished, apartheid would never have ended, and much more. > > > Subject: Read what a White Reporter wrote about President Obama > > > AN INTERESTING READ > > Interesting, but read to the bottom. > > > Read what a White Reporter wrote in a Georgia Newspaper > > cid:7450ADE8-D7F5-4A63-B44C-101699BE2E67 > > Andrew M. Manis is associate professor of history at Macon State College in > > Georgia and wrote this for an editorial in the Macon Telegraph. > > > Andrew M. Manis: When Are WE Going to Get Over It? > > > For much of the last forty years, ever since America "fixed" its race > > problem in the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts, we white people have > > been impatient with African Americans who continued to blame race for their > > difficulties. Often we have heard whites ask, "When are African Americans > > finally going to get over it? > > Now I want to ask: > > "When are we White Americans going to get over our ridiculous obsession with > > skin color? > > Recent reports that "Election Spurs Hundreds' of Race Threats, Crimes" > > should frighten and infuriate every one of us. Having grown up in > > "Bombingham," Alabama in the 1960s, I remember overhearing an avalanche of > > comments about what many white classmates and their parents wanted to do to > > John and Bobby Kennedy and Martin Luther King. > > Eventually, as you may recall, in all three cases, someone decided to do > > more than "talk the talk." > > > Since our recent presidential election, to our eternal shame we are once > > again hearing the same reprehensible talk I remember from my boyhood. > > > We white people have controlled political life in the disunited colonies and > > United States for some 400 years on this continent. > > Conservative whites have been in power 28 of the last 40 years. Even during > > the eight Clinton years, conservatives in Congress blocked most of his > > agenda and pulled him to the right. Yet never in that period did I read any > > headlines suggesting that anyone was calling for the assassinations of > > presidents Nixon, Ford, Reagan, or either of the Bushes. Criticize them, > > yes. > > Call for their impeachment, perhaps. But there were no bounties on their > > heads. And even when someone did try to kill Ronald Reagan, the perpetrator > > was non-political mental case who wanted merely to impress Jody Foster. > > > But elect a liberal who happens to be Black and we're back in the sixties > > again. At this point in our history, we should be proud that we've proven > > what conservatives are always saying -- that in America anything is > > possible, EVEN electing a black man as president. > > But instead we now hear that school children from Maine to California are > > talking about wanting to "assassinate Obama." > > Fighting the urge to throw up, I can only ask, "How long?" > > How long before we white people realize we can't make our nation, much less > > the whole world, look like us? > > How long until we white people can - once and for all - get over this > > hell-conceived preoccupation with skin color? > > How long until we white people get over the demonic conviction that white > > skin makes us superior? > > How long before we white people get over our bitter resentments about being > > demoted to the status of equality with non-whites? > > > How long before we get over our expectations that we should be at the head > > of the line merely because of our white skin? > > How long until we white people end our silence and call out our peers when > > they share the latest racist jokes in the privacy of our white-only > > conversations? > > > I believe in free speech, but how long until we white people start making > > racist loudmouths as socially uncomfortable as we do flag burners? > > How long until we white people will stop insisting that blacks exercise > > personal responsibility, build strong families, educate themselves enough to > > edit the Harvard Law Review, and work hard enough to become President of the > > United States, only to threaten to assassinate them when they do? > > > How long before we start "living out the true meaning" of our creeds, both > > civil and religious, that all men and women are created equal and that "red > > and yellow, black and white" all are precious in God's sight? > > Until this past November 4, I didn't believe this country would ever elect > > an African American to the presidency. I still don't believe I'll live long > > enough to see us white people get over our racism problem. > > > But here's my three-point plan: > > > First, everyday that Barack Obama lives in the White House that Black Slaves > > Built, I'm going to pray that God (and the Secret Service) will protect him > > and his family from us white people. > > > Second, I'm going to report to the FBI any white person I overhear saying, > > in seriousness or in jest, anything of a threatening nature about President > > Obama. > > > Third, I'm going to pray to live long enough to see America surprise the > > world once again, when white people can "in spirit and in truth" sing of our > > damnable color prejudice, > > > "We HAVE overcome." > > ************************************** > > It takes a Village to protect our President!!! > > > because the President of these DisUnited States happens to be a Black Man, > > all you "Conswervatives" need to get off his case! He took over a job that > > White Men "screwed up royally", and he's merely trying to straighten things > > out. They took "years" to foul it up -- why is he expected to "fix" it > > overnight??? "All" will never be happy with all decisions of any political > > party, but I happen to be Proud of the fact that a Black Man achieved the > > success of becoming the first Black President of these DisUnited States.. It > > took one "heckofa man" to want to take over a position where he knew going > > in, that he would be ridiculed, berated, dogged, and, could possibly get > > "assassinated"?? For a Country that is supposed to have been "built" (after > > being stolen) on God, why can't God be allowed to do His work for His > > Country, and cut out all the "tea-partying" (KKK activities) in the name of > > Christianity?? > > Respectfully, > > > George W. Garrett > > 214-497-8747 214-497-8747 214-497-8747 214-497-8747 Cell > > I think it is alarmist. I think it doesn't address the threats and > intimidation that are coming from Obama's own camp. I think Manis > didn't substantiate one single assassination threat. If he has heard > such a thing, it was probably from some Georgia cracker who couldn't > spell cat if you spotted him the "c" and the "a". And I think that he > would have us, as conservatives, roll over and play dead, allowing > Obama to implement anything he pleases. > > Also, I don't think it is fair to portray TEA party members as Klan > members. That is about on the same level as portraying all of > Hollywood or the ACLU as Communists, through and through. I work with > a number of people who attend these rallies. They are nothing like > that. They are demonstrating because they are Taxed Enough > Already. > > Here are some photos from the 912 rally last September in our capitol. > Looks like a pretty diverse, well behaved crowd to me. > > http://www.lookingattheleft.com/2009/09/conservative-woodstock-rocks-... > > Stand by for November. It's going to be great. > > Ken The only people I hear talking about assassinating Obama are people like the author of the article in the OP and Lois Farrakhan. Never heard anyone else mention it but left wingers. JMHO, of course, but I don't see that most people care about the color of his skin. His policies, OTOH, are quite controversial, and should be discussed independent of such race bating, but apparently the left cannot resist it. |