From: John B. on
On May 8, 1:13 am, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> In article
> <a4ad277c-3776-4644-b4f7-0a694a093...(a)d19g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,
>  "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 7, 8:50 pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> > > On Fri, 07 May 2010 11:30:25 -0500, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote:
> > > >So open the flood gate of legal drugs  TO MILLIONS WHO MIGHT THEN DO
> > > >HARM TO OTHERS.
>
> > > It's an assumption that legalization would increase drug use.  Fact is
> > > that drugs are easily  available to anyone who wants them.  Right now,
> > > it's easier for a High School kid to get illegal drugs than alcohol.
> > > So the idea that legalization would increase drug use is by no means a
> > > proven hypothesis. And even if it did, most people who try drugs, or
> > > alcohol, never develop a problem.  
>
> > They are not easy to get for anyone who wants them. If I wanted to buy
> > cocaine or heroin, I would have no idea how to do it.
>
> And you could find out in about 15 minutes.
>
> --
> Alan Baker
> Vancouver, British Columbia
> <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>

Maybe you could. I could not.
From: John B. on
On May 8, 8:56 am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> In article <25a14d64-41a8-4d52-a412-0f4b7b382759
> @q30g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says...
>
> > Your use of the word "reciprocity" might hold water if the Mexicans
> > were in the habit of shooting Americans who cross the Rio Grande
> > illegally, but I don't think they are.
>
> The Mexicans have laws that the enforce against illegal immigrants. This
> is the point of reciprocity Johnny. We need to adopt the policy of
> reciprocity.
>
> Mexicans nationals cannot own property in the US.
>
> Mexicans illegally in the US are jailed for 2 years upon their first
> offense, then deported.
>
> Mexicans illegally in the US are jailed for 10 years upon their second
> offense, then deported.
>
> You are smart enough to know what I was talking about but, you just
> wanted to play dumb so that you could support the open borders policy.

I wasn't playing dumb. I do not support an open borders policy.
Adopting on our southern border the tactics that (you say) the
Mexicans use on their southern border is not reciprocity. If the
Mexicans had a policy of raping Guatemalan women and girls that enter
Mexico illegally, I suppose you'd say we should do the same.
From: John B. on
On May 8, 9:11 am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> In article <nb69u5p7655gb61ur9lff70dvaqlto5...(a)4ax.com>,
> bkni...(a)conramp.net says...
>
>
>
> > Are you serious?  There's no question about the definition,  and it
> > has nothing to do with politics.  Your lame brain can't understand
> > that.  
> > One thing that separates us from most of the rest of the world is our
> > legal system, and a dolt like you would want to adopt Mexico's.
>
> The fact that you deny that it is all about politics makes your argument
> fall apart. Read a newspaper, watch a news program.
>
> Our legal system makes it a criminal offense to be in the US illegally.

Except if you come from Cuba. The moment a Cuban refugee sets foot on
US soil, he's legal.

>
> Immigration is all about politics.

From: John B. on
On May 8, 10:23 am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> In article <6f62031e-5ed6-40d8-b298-f4a9bf022326
> @k19g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says...
>
>
>
> > On May 7, 5:31 pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> > > In article <15e109f3-c8f4-4e85-b67e-00e442e6c3d9
> > > @e1g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says...
>
> > > > The Marielitos who came here in 1980 are the most successful immigrant
> > > > group in the U.S. They have built a highly prosperous diaspora in
>
> > > Where's your proof?
>
> > In Miami.
>
> Yet again Johnny has not real proof.

I've spent lots of time there and I've seen it for myself. If you did
a little research on the S. Florida Cuban community, you might learn
something. But I guess you can't be bothered with that.
From: BAR on
In article <cd8b18d0-aed1-43e0-a931-2a5adf49c8d3
@u21g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says...
>
> On May 8, 9:11�am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> > In article <nb69u5p7655gb61ur9lff70dvaqlto5...(a)4ax.com>,
> > bkni...(a)conramp.net says...
> >
> >
> >
> > > Are you serious? �There's no question about the definition, �and it
> > > has nothing to do with politics. �Your lame brain can't understand
> > > that. �
> > > One thing that separates us from most of the rest of the world is our
> > > legal system, and a dolt like you would want to adopt Mexico's.
> >
> > The fact that you deny that it is all about politics makes your argument
> > fall apart. Read a newspaper, watch a news program.
> >
> > Our legal system makes it a criminal offense to be in the US illegally.
>
> Except if you come from Cuba. The moment a Cuban refugee sets foot on
> US soil, he's legal.

Legal what? His becomes a legal resident alien. He does not become a US
citizen. He does not have all rights and responsibilities of a US
citizen, meaning he cannot vote unless he lives in Takoma Park Maryland.

> >
> > Immigration is all about politics.

I notice that you didn't affirm the or deny that immigration is about
politics.