From: Howard Brazee on
On Thu, 6 May 2010 12:18:57 -0400, "R&B"
<none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote:

>Although I find it quite odd that you omitted one important part of the
>puzzle: securing the border.
>
>That has to happen first.
>
>Second, you have to eliminate their reason for crossing the border --
>by preventing undocumented workers from being hired. There are several
>ways to do this, starting with penalizing employers to hire illegals.
>And I'm not entirely opposed to the idea of an ID card (I have one,
>it's called a Social Security card).

No, that has to be primary for anything to work.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison
From: Howard Brazee on
On Thu, 6 May 2010 19:52:41 -0700, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com>
wrote:

>Righties want our borders honored and protected. Righties wants standing
>immigration laws enforced and improved upon. Righties are tired of paying
>for the medical bills, education, and court costs of illegal immigrants.

And they are very good at selective exaggerated statistics. People
with fake cards pay income tax and social security tax - but hardly
any of them get social security back.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison
From: Howard Brazee on
On Fri, 07 May 2010 11:11:00 -0500, bknight(a)conramp.net wrote:

>I'm smart enough to know that I don't have the answers.

You can never be a politician if you admit that. Politicians have
lots of answers that don't solve anything.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison
From: Jack Hollis on
On Fri, 07 May 2010 11:30:25 -0500, bknight(a)conramp.net wrote:

>So open the flood gate of legal drugs TO MILLIONS WHO MIGHT THEN DO
>HARM TO OTHERS.

It's an assumption that legalization would increase drug use. Fact is
that drugs are easily available to anyone who wants them. Right now,
it's easier for a High School kid to get illegal drugs than alcohol.
So the idea that legalization would increase drug use is by no means a
proven hypothesis. And even if it did, most people who try drugs, or
alcohol, never develop a problem.
From: Howard Brazee on
On Fri, 7 May 2010 07:55:52 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:

>Shallow? Who is coming across the southern border? Do you have any idea?
>It is not just poor migrant workers.
>
>And, every government official has sworn an oath to protect us from all
>enemies, foreign and domestic. The problem with the Democrats is that
>the only enemies they see are their political opponents at the ballot
>box.

And the Republicans vote against the same programs they proposed when
it is the Democrats proposing them.

All enemies "foreign and domestic" would imply a high priority to
trace down anybody who showed similarities to Timothy McVeigh. What
would you like to see the feds do in this regard?

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison