From: Alan Murphy on 25 Feb 2007 10:19
"Pat Williams" <jpwil(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
> I'll let the Yanks answer that one. Over to Peter! He will lose the
> majority in the use of English language, if he chooses to answer.
I'll second that :-)
From: The LHC on 25 Feb 2007 10:35
Paul Schmitz-Josten <alossola(a)web.de> wrote in
> The LHC in <45df0d54$0$28981$da0feed9(a)news.zen.co.uk>:
>>>>So from that point of view the German system is understandable.
>>> Thank you for your understanding. Now you got my point:
>>> A foreign system is not ridiculous only because it's different ;->
>>No, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be improved upon; I'd suggest,
>>after your beginners have had their ten lessons and test with the pro
>>(or whoever it is), it wouldn't be too difficult to ask them go out
>>with another member, play one round of medal and then take a rough
>>handicap from that, at least that way they'd get an initial handicap
>>more indicative of how they actually play.
> That sounds good - please send your proposal to the German Golf
> Association DGV at info(a)dgv.golf.de
Please feel free to advance the idea to them if you like it, I think I'll
be staying out of other nations regulations now, lesson learnt! :-)
From: Crispin Roche on 25 Feb 2007 15:15
On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 16:33:43 +0100, Paul Schmitz-Josten
>Pat Williams in <45deb406$1_4(a)mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>:
>>>> Have you forgotten the purpose of handicapping?
>>>> The purpose is to create To position where EVERYONE has an equal chance of
>>> I take this as your personal opinion - I don't think that _that_ is the
>>> basic purpose of handicaps. Perhaps you can give us an official quote?
>>Will these help?
>>The first is the very first sentence of the USGA handicapping site.
>>1. The USGA Handicap System� enables golfers of all skill levels to compete on
>>an equitable basis
>This is quite close to Crispin's statement - I regret that I didn't inform
>The Germans have slightly different objectives though basing their system
>on the �EGA Handicap System�:
>(translating the gist of chapter 1.2 of the German handicap system)
>- expand the number of players with HCP 36 or better,
>- achieve a large extent of comparability and parity,
>- (allow EDS scores)
>- (use Stableford)
>- (apply a system of courserating and slope for the courses)
>- achieve a maximum of simplicity for players and officials.
>I considered the second one, "a large extent of comparability and parity",
>when asking Crispin for a quote featuring his statement.
>To me, this is another example that things may be different abroad without
>a distinction between "better" or "worse", the only difference being that
>now I got caught in the trap.
Perhaps a point of clarification is needed, the orignal poster who
seems to have become me is in fact Denis Cary:-)
From: mike short on 25 Feb 2007 19:20
Pat Williams wrote:
> Not true my self-characterisation as the archetypal Englishman (even
> inadvertently) for I speak one European language fluently, one quite
> passably and one reasonably.
How can you say that when your self-effacing, modesty is just so
characteristically English (though with names like Pat and Williams
perhaps I should say British)
From: Paul Schmitz-Josten on 26 Feb 2007 02:04
The LHC in <45e1acd0$0$22111$db0fefd9(a)news.zen.co.uk>:
>> That sounds good - please send your proposal to the German Golf
>> Association DGV at info(a)dgv.golf.de
>Please feel free to advance the idea to them if you like it, I think I'll
>be staying out of other nations regulations now, lesson learnt! :-)
Love and peace,