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From: Bobby Knight on 6 Sep 2009 20:39 On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 20:30:35 -0400, BAR <Screw(a)You.Com> wrote: >William Clark wrote: >> In article <ki38a5p0ombr0tjfg7p6am76ch5v4cnasm(a)4ax.com>, >> Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 6 Sep 2009 10:49:41 -0700 (PDT), Dinosaur_Sr >>> <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Obama, FWIW, needs to >>>> come clean on these issues, and either deny Holdren and Emanuel >>>> outright, or justify the value of their approaches as potential >>>> policy. >>> It's not an accident that Obama is surrounded by extreme left-wing >>> radicals. I have no doubt that Obama was, and is, more inspired by >>> Karl Marx than Thomas Jefferson. >> >> Christ on a bike - it was so nice when he was too ashamed to show his >> face here for eight months. > >"Christ on a bike" I didn't think good liberals believed in God in any >form. Wrong, as usual. BK
From: Howard Brazee on 6 Sep 2009 20:45 On Sun, 6 Sep 2009 17:23:34 -0700, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: >Everyone in Canada has rationed healthcare and heavy taxation to pay for it. Is how we pay for our health care particularly important? Canadians spend less on health care than we do. My wallet doesn't care what accounting column the deduction is marked to. It's arguable whether their care is better or worse than ours - but implying theirs costs more than ours just because of how the money is withheld from my net check doesn't work. >The elite have instant healthcare if they cross the border. Yep. The wealthy will always have superior health care, no matter where they live. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: Howard Brazee on 6 Sep 2009 20:47 On Sun, 6 Sep 2009 16:58:01 -0700, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: >Glad to see you admit there are flaws with your country's system. Now why >would you want to impose the same system on my country, especially given the >size of our population and the Federal gov't well deserved reputation for >inefficiency. Wouldn't sensible insurance reform be more expedient? It could be. But with our politics we see that whatever we do will be heavily modified to make sure the medical industry gets more money. They will pay for the bills that define "sensible insurance reform" to make sure they win. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: Howard Brazee on 6 Sep 2009 20:48 On 07 Sep 2009 00:11:41 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >To be honest, I don't have much faith in government, especially the US >one. If Obama does manage to push through meaningful healthcare reform I >expect the implementation to be rife with incompetence and corruption. >But it will still be way better than the corrupt BOHICA (bend over here >it comes again) profit-based system that is in place now. I have less and less confidence in his all the time. Maybe if they split the bill in half we have a chance. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: dene on 6 Sep 2009 20:50
"Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message news:4aa4523f$0$4954$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 17:24:04 -0700, dene wrote: > > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:4aa44eac$0$4939$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > >> On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 16:53:33 -0700, dene wrote: > >> > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > >> > news:4aa3e396$0$4943$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > >> >> On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 11:32:46 -0400, Jack Hollis wrote: > >> >> > On 06 Sep 2009 14:43:39 GMT, Carbon > >> >> > <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > >> >> >>On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 10:18:28 -0400, Jack Hollis wrote: > >> >> >>> On 06 Sep 2009 02:38:47 GMT, Carbon > >> >> >>> <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>>> In Canada if you're sick and you need expensive care, you get > >> >> >>>> it, period. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> Canadians get it all right, but not the way they think. > >> >> >>> Canada's health care rationing kills. > >> >> >> > >> >> >>Spare me the bullshit. > >> >> > > >> >> > From the Canadian Supreme Court decision July, 2005. > >> >> > > >> >> > "Delays in the public system are widespread and have serious, > >> >> > sometimes grave, consequences," wrote Chief Justice Beverley > >> >> > McLachlin and Justice John Major. "Inevitably where patients > >> >> > have life-threatening conditions, some will die because of undue > >> >> > delay in awaiting surgery." > >> >> > > >> >> > I assume that this decision came after a long trial with many > >> >> > expert witnesses followed by a period of deliberation. Now if > >> >> > the greatest legal minds in Canada say that the Canadian health > >> >> > care system results in people unnecessarily dying, then who am > >> >> > I, or you for that matter, to disagree. > >> >> > >> >> I guess things didn't work out on rec.sport.soccer, huh? > >> > > >> > Nice diversion, Carbs, but why don't you address Jack's cite. > >> > >> I have addressed Jack's bullshit ad nauseum in the past. Done with > >> that. > > > > Then don't criticize what he says. > > Why the hell not? He's already worn this newsgroup out. There are plenty > more. I don't care about other newsgroups. If you want to refute Hollis's views and cites, counter them with your own cites, or perhaps ignore him completely. Trying to toss him from this NG is low class. You are better than that. -Greg |