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From: MNMikeW on 19 Feb 2010 12:30 "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message news:4b7dc848$0$4977$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 09:37:13 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: >> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message >> news:4b7c8dfa$0$5110$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:33:52 -0500, BAR wrote: >>>> In article <0t7on5lbbttudhhau9iikvt05d3vnouve4(a)4ax.com>, >>>> bknight(a)conramp.net says... >>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:20:58 -0600, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>><bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message >>>>>>news:7ihmn5lgj229dobctt1r6atpqcq0rurdcu(a)4ax.com... >>>>>>> On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 20:16:01 -0500, Jack Hollis >>>>>>> <xsleeper(a)aol.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Show me the place in the IPCC report where it says with >>>>>>>> absolute certainty that the current warming trend is being >>>>>>>> caused by humans. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There IS no absolute certainty either way or there wouldn't be >>>>>>> any argument. >>>>>> >>>>>> Exactly Bobby, but the ideologues in the AGW crowd will have none >>>>>> of that! The science is settled they spew. But it is far from >>>>>> being settled. >>>>> >>>>> My point is that the opinions voiced here are by people who don't >>>>> have access, nor understanding of the factors in the argument. >>>> >>>> You are kidding, I hope. >>>> >>>> I know when someone is feeding me a line of BS and trying to steal >>>> money out of my wallet. Global Warming/Climate Change is BS and a >>>> money grab. >>> >>> You don't like AGW because you disagree with the politics of many of >>> its supporters. You have absolutely no idea what the real truth is. >>> You're like a child. >> >> LOL Mr. Kettle. > > You need to learn to read. I have said here over and over again that I > do not know to what extent, if any, AGW exists. Neither do any of you > zealots. And yet, you're all so certain you're right. > > How is it, Mike, that you and all your right-wing friends can be so > certain that so many climatologists are wrong, when hardly any of you > have any expertise in the area? Please just tell me that. How are you so > sure? I never said I was sure. It's mainly the left-wing crowd saying they're certain its happening.
From: MNMikeW on 19 Feb 2010 12:33 "William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message news:clark-813DC1.08171019022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > In article <MPG.25e84d54eacf5224989c0a(a)news.giganews.com>, > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > >> In article <wclark2-9F05E0.22121818022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- >> state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... >> > > >> > >> > > >> > As an honorable man, I'm sure that you'll publically retract it. >> > > >> >> > > >> All of the news reports on air and in the newspaper were on the >> > > >> subject of the coming ice age. >> > > >> >> > > >> If anything is to blame it is the MSM. >> > > > >> > > > See what I mean, Jim? >> > > >> > > I'd rather start out with the assumption that the person I'm >> > > responding >> > > to >> > > is honest. If I'm wrong, he'll demonstrate it himself. And it will >> > > be a >> > > lot more credible than if I *claim* he's dishonest. >> > >> > >> > When you have been around here a while, you will be left in no doubt on >> > that one. >> >> Jim, just to let you know Billy Clark is an admitted liar. Therefore his >> dishonesty has already been proven. > > So, tell us about that "proof" you had that Dino published in the > materials science journals. Bit of a whopper, that was, wasn't it? Nice deflection. You'd make a great goalie.
From: MNMikeW on 19 Feb 2010 12:35 "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message news:wclark2-E847FA.19482218022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > In article <7u5se0Fp7pU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote: > >> "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:7c367a86-319c-4dc0-b889-295421c86eef(a)y17g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... >> On Feb 18, 3:11 pm, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote: >> > "William Clark" <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message >> > >> > news:clark-81577F.14252318022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > In article <7u5a50Fd4...(a)mid.individual.net>, >> > > "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote: >> > >> > >> "William Clark" <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in >> > >> message >> > >>news:clark-0771DB.11075018022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... >> > >> > In article <7u55f1Fhn...(a)mid.individual.net>, >> > >> > "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote: >> > >> > >> >> "William Clark" <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message >> > >> >>news:wclark2-5A4756.22020617022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... >> > >> >> > In article <wHUen.74969$RS6.11...(a)newsfe15.iad>, >> > >> >> > "Frank Ketchum" <nos...(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote: >> > >> > >> >> >> "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message >> > >> >> >>news:4b7c1584$0$5110$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >> > >> >> >> > On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:20:58 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> <bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message >> > >> >> >> >>news:7ihmn5lgj229dobctt1r6atpqcq0rurdcu(a)4ax.com... >> > >> >> >> >>> On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 20:16:01 -0500, Jack Hollis >> > >> >> >> >>> <xslee...(a)aol.com> >> > >> >> >> >>> wrote: >> > >> > >> >> >> >>>>Show me the place in the IPCC report where it says with >> > >> >> >> >>>>absolute >> > >> >> >> >>>>certainty that the current warming trend is being caused >> > >> >> >> >>>>by >> > >> >> >> >>>>humans. >> > >> > >> >> >> >>> There IS no absolute certainty either way or there >> > >> >> >> >>> wouldn't >> > >> >> >> >>> be >> > >> >> >> >>> any >> > >> >> >> >>> argument. >> > >> > >> >> >> >> Exactly Bobby, but the ideologues in the AGW crowd will >> > >> >> >> >> have >> > >> >> >> >> none >> > >> >> >> >> of >> > >> >> >> >> that! The science is settled they spew. But it is far from >> > >> >> >> >> being >> > >> >> >> >> settled. >> > >> > >> >> >> > Since it's far from settled, you can't exactly say AGW is >> > >> >> >> > wrong, >> > >> >> >> > now >> > >> >> >> > can >> > >> >> >> > you? >> > >> > >> >> >> You can't say that AGW doesn't occur. You also can't say that >> > >> >> >> AGW >> > >> >> >> does >> > >> >> >> occur. >> > >> > >> >> >> The AGW crowd is wrong in the sense that they have been saying >> > >> >> >> for >> > >> >> >> years >> > >> >> >> that the science is settled and AGW is happening. It was and >> > >> >> >> is a >> > >> >> >> lie >> > >> >> >> plain >> > >> >> >> and simple promoted for political reasons masquerading behind >> > >> >> >> faulty >> > >> >> >> "science". >> > >> > >> >> > No they have not been saying it is "settled". >> > >> > >> >> You truely are an idiot. >> > >> > >> > "Truely"? OK. show me where the science is "settled". >> > >> > >> It isnt. But somebody might want to tell Al Gore that. >> > >> > > You clearly have a quote from him claiming that the science is >> > > "settled"? >> > >> > The science is settled, Gore told the lawmakers. Carbon-dioxide >> > emissions - >> > from cars, power plants, buildings and other sources - are heating the >> > Earth's atmosphere. >> > >> > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9047642- Hide >> > quoted >> > text - >> > >> > - Show quoted text - >> >> For climate change deniers, it's much easier to beat up on Al Gore >> than to study and respond to the science. But frankly, I don't blame >> them. He's arrogant and self-righteous and he does his cause more harm >> than good in my view. >> >> ==================================== >> >> You honestly think calling people skeptical of AGW "deniers" is helping >> your >> cause? There are plenty of skeptical people who have studied the science. > > They are deniers because they are skeptics first and foremost, based > solely on their political prejudice. Denial to them is much more > important than examining the actual data - in fact they deny without > even looking at the data. So they have given up any claim to be treated > as intelligent or credible. They get whatever comes their way. You are clueless.
From: John B. on 19 Feb 2010 13:28 On Feb 19, 12:30 pm, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote: > "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:4b7dc848$0$4977$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > > > > > > > On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 09:37:13 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: > >> "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > >>news:4b7c8dfa$0$5110$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > >>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:33:52 -0500, BAR wrote: > >>>> In article <0t7on5lbbttudhhau9iikvt05d3vnou...(a)4ax.com>, > >>>> bkni...(a)conramp.net says... > >>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:20:58 -0600, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>><bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message > >>>>>>news:7ihmn5lgj229dobctt1r6atpqcq0rurdcu(a)4ax.com... > >>>>>>> On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 20:16:01 -0500, Jack Hollis > >>>>>>> <xslee...(a)aol.com> > > >>>>>>>> Show me the place in the IPCC report where it says with > >>>>>>>> absolute certainty that the current warming trend is being > >>>>>>>> caused by humans. > > >>>>>>> There IS no absolute certainty either way or there wouldn't be > >>>>>>> any argument. > > >>>>>> Exactly Bobby, but the ideologues in the AGW crowd will have none > >>>>>> of that! The science is settled they spew. But it is far from > >>>>>> being settled. > > >>>>> My point is that the opinions voiced here are by people who don't > >>>>> have access, nor understanding of the factors in the argument. > > >>>> You are kidding, I hope. > > >>>> I know when someone is feeding me a line of BS and trying to steal > >>>> money out of my wallet. Global Warming/Climate Change is BS and a > >>>> money grab. > > >>> You don't like AGW because you disagree with the politics of many of > >>> its supporters. You have absolutely no idea what the real truth is. > >>> You're like a child. > > >> LOL Mr. Kettle. > > > You need to learn to read. I have said here over and over again that I > > do not know to what extent, if any, AGW exists. Neither do any of you > > zealots. And yet, you're all so certain you're right. > > > How is it, Mike, that you and all your right-wing friends can be so > > certain that so many climatologists are wrong, when hardly any of you > > have any expertise in the area? Please just tell me that. How are you so > > sure? > > I never said I was sure. It's mainly the left-wing crowd saying they're > certain its happening.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - And nobody on the right says they're certain it's not happening?
From: MNMikeW on 19 Feb 2010 13:44
"John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:37d972cd-c259-47e4-8688-a541aca7c1ee(a)k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com... On Feb 19, 12:30 pm, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote: > "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:4b7dc848$0$4977$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > > > > > > > On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 09:37:13 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: > >> "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > >>news:4b7c8dfa$0$5110$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > >>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:33:52 -0500, BAR wrote: > >>>> In article <0t7on5lbbttudhhau9iikvt05d3vnou...(a)4ax.com>, > >>>> bkni...(a)conramp.net says... > >>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:20:58 -0600, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>><bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message > >>>>>>news:7ihmn5lgj229dobctt1r6atpqcq0rurdcu(a)4ax.com... > >>>>>>> On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 20:16:01 -0500, Jack Hollis > >>>>>>> <xslee...(a)aol.com> > > >>>>>>>> Show me the place in the IPCC report where it says with > >>>>>>>> absolute certainty that the current warming trend is being > >>>>>>>> caused by humans. > > >>>>>>> There IS no absolute certainty either way or there wouldn't be > >>>>>>> any argument. > > >>>>>> Exactly Bobby, but the ideologues in the AGW crowd will have none > >>>>>> of that! The science is settled they spew. But it is far from > >>>>>> being settled. > > >>>>> My point is that the opinions voiced here are by people who don't > >>>>> have access, nor understanding of the factors in the argument. > > >>>> You are kidding, I hope. > > >>>> I know when someone is feeding me a line of BS and trying to steal > >>>> money out of my wallet. Global Warming/Climate Change is BS and a > >>>> money grab. > > >>> You don't like AGW because you disagree with the politics of many of > >>> its supporters. You have absolutely no idea what the real truth is. > >>> You're like a child. > > >> LOL Mr. Kettle. > > > You need to learn to read. I have said here over and over again that I > > do not know to what extent, if any, AGW exists. Neither do any of you > > zealots. And yet, you're all so certain you're right. > > > How is it, Mike, that you and all your right-wing friends can be so > > certain that so many climatologists are wrong, when hardly any of you > > have any expertise in the area? Please just tell me that. How are you so > > sure? > > I never said I was sure. It's mainly the left-wing crowd saying they're > certain its happening.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - And nobody on the right says they're certain it's not happening? ================================== No, there are some who claim that of course. |