From: BAR on
In article <wclark2-FC34B1.19484018022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says...
>
> In article <MPG.25e791fe22a23b24989bf1(a)news.giganews.com>,
> BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <clark-AB12FD.08102718022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
> > state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says...
> > > >
> > > > If the principals have been proved to be liars and driven by personal
> > > > political goals and stifling debate and peer review what are we to think
> > > > of them and believe of their work product?
> > >
> > > Perhaps, but they haven't. It is only your blind prejudice that says
> > > they have, because you lack the tools to produce any counter argument
> > > supported by data.
> >
> > They, the principals, have admitted to being politically motivated.
> >
> > The real question is where is Michael Mann?
>
> Cite, please?

You want me to provide you with a cite when I ask a questions about the
whereabouts of a person?

I am asking what happened to the the great hockey player Michael Mann?
He has suddenly disappeared from public view.

I would assume that U Penn is having a difficult time trying to figure
out what to do with him in light of all of Phil Jones' recent public
statements.
From: BAR on
In article <wclark2-9F05E0.22121818022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says...
> > >> >
> > >> > As an honorable man, I'm sure that you'll publically retract it.
> > >>
> > >> All of the news reports on air and in the newspaper were on the
> > >> subject of the coming ice age.
> > >>
> > >> If anything is to blame it is the MSM.
> > >
> > > See what I mean, Jim?
> >
> > I'd rather start out with the assumption that the person I'm responding to
> > is honest. If I'm wrong, he'll demonstrate it himself. And it will be a
> > lot more credible than if I *claim* he's dishonest.
>
>
> When you have been around here a while, you will be left in no doubt on
> that one.

Jim, just to let you know Billy Clark is an admitted liar. Therefore his
dishonesty has already been proven.

From: BAR on
In article <wclark2-A0EEEB.19522918022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says...
>
> In article <MPG.25e7a317e39a1f2989bfb(a)news.giganews.com>,
> BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <4b7dc51c$0$4954$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> > nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
> > >
> > > On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 07:20:49 -0500, BAR wrote:
> > > > In article <4b7c9759$0$5107$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> > > > nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
> > > >> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 20:18:46 -0500, BAR wrote:
> > > >>> In article <jj2pn59q3f32b13lfaj9i0nnjes857c0sh(a)4ax.com>,
> > > >>> bknight(a)conramp.net says...
> > > >>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:22:56 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> > > >>>>>In article <4b7c5bad$0$4878$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> > > >>>>>nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Obviously all the non-scientific laymen pontificating here and
> > > >>>>>> elsewhere are in the best possible position to understand the
> > > >>>>>> issue. Ignore the climatologists! If they say inconvenient things
> > > >>>>>> they must be biased!
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Have you been living in a cave since November? The
> > > >>>>> "climatologists" have not been involved in science, they have been
> > > >>>>> caught advancing political views and social engineering. As each
> > > >>>>> new day passes the revelations that the WWF, a student's master
> > > >>>>> thesis and other rabid environmentalist organizations have been
> > > >>>>> used as references to promote the catastrophic warming described
> > > >>>>> in the IPCC reports. But, you can ignore all of that and stick to
> > > >>>>> your guns and ignore all of this because you it doesn't fit your
> > > >>>>> desired outcome.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Just for kicks, what is his desired outcome, and why? Now show us
> > > >>>> your mind-reading capabilities Bert.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Control.
> > > >>
> > > >> And this is different from the anti-AGW apologists, how exactly?
> > > >
> > > > I don't want to tax every breath you exhale!
> > >
> > > I see. So you don't know or care about the truth or the potential for
> > > future devastation if the AGW alarmists turn out to be correct. You just
> > > want the lowest possible tax rate. Bert, you are a man among men.
> >
> > AGW is a theory.
> >
> > Yes, I want the lowest taxes. Taxes are legalized theft.
>
> So you do send your children to private schools, then? And you will send
> them to private universities? Great.

No my children go to public school right now. The money, I pay in taxes,
is more than what it would cost to send them to private school.

And, my eldest daughter, a high school sophmore, is already being
courted by many major private colleges and universities as well as
public colleges and universities. Luckily I have two years to put away
quite a bit more money to enable her to choose the school that best fits
here interestes.
From: BAR on
In article <X_KdnVUrGeaSYODWnZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d(a)nventure.com>,
nospam(a)devnull.spam says...
> O gee! You accidentally deleted the earlier discussion, where I
> specifically said *climatologists* and you claimed "Nobody was predicting
> any warming at all."
>
> Strange that! If I didn't know better I'd claim you were being dishonest.
>
> Let me state again "As an honorable man, I'm sure that you'll publically
> retract it."
>
> Or maybe you don't think of yourself as honorable. Your choice.

In the late 70's the information that I was exposed to did not discuss,
report or talk about the earth warming. The subject that was discussed,
reported and talked about was the coming of the next ice age, and it was
stated that within the next 30 years we would see massive cooling.



From: William Clark on
In article <MPG.25e84f7672bde57b989c0b(a)news.giganews.com>,
BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:

> In article <wclark2-A0EEEB.19522918022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
> state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says...
> >
> > In article <MPG.25e7a317e39a1f2989bfb(a)news.giganews.com>,
> > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <4b7dc51c$0$4954$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> > > nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 07:20:49 -0500, BAR wrote:
> > > > > In article <4b7c9759$0$5107$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> > > > > nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
> > > > >> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 20:18:46 -0500, BAR wrote:
> > > > >>> In article <jj2pn59q3f32b13lfaj9i0nnjes857c0sh(a)4ax.com>,
> > > > >>> bknight(a)conramp.net says...
> > > > >>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:22:56 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>In article <4b7c5bad$0$4878$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> > > > >>>>>nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Obviously all the non-scientific laymen pontificating here and
> > > > >>>>>> elsewhere are in the best possible position to understand the
> > > > >>>>>> issue. Ignore the climatologists! If they say inconvenient things
> > > > >>>>>> they must be biased!
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Have you been living in a cave since November? The
> > > > >>>>> "climatologists" have not been involved in science, they have been
> > > > >>>>> caught advancing political views and social engineering. As each
> > > > >>>>> new day passes the revelations that the WWF, a student's master
> > > > >>>>> thesis and other rabid environmentalist organizations have been
> > > > >>>>> used as references to promote the catastrophic warming described
> > > > >>>>> in the IPCC reports. But, you can ignore all of that and stick to
> > > > >>>>> your guns and ignore all of this because you it doesn't fit your
> > > > >>>>> desired outcome.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Just for kicks, what is his desired outcome, and why? Now show us
> > > > >>>> your mind-reading capabilities Bert.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Control.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> And this is different from the anti-AGW apologists, how exactly?
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't want to tax every breath you exhale!
> > > >
> > > > I see. So you don't know or care about the truth or the potential for
> > > > future devastation if the AGW alarmists turn out to be correct. You just
> > > > want the lowest possible tax rate. Bert, you are a man among men.
> > >
> > > AGW is a theory.
> > >
> > > Yes, I want the lowest taxes. Taxes are legalized theft.
> >
> > So you do send your children to private schools, then? And you will send
> > them to private universities? Great.
>
> No my children go to public school right now. The money, I pay in taxes,
> is more than what it would cost to send them to private school.

Hmmm - bit of a bend of the old principles, eh?
>
> And, my eldest daughter, a high school sophmore, is already being
> courted by many major private colleges and universities as well as
> public colleges and universities. Luckily I have two years to put away
> quite a bit more money to enable her to choose the school that best fits
> here interestes.

Good, just make sure that that "private" school returns all the money it
receives from its local state. They all do, you know.
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