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From: MNMikeW on 15 Sep 2009 12:18 "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message news:4aaedf56$0$23959$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:05:48 -0500, MNMikeW wrote: >> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message >> news:4aaece25$0$23971$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >>> On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 08:32:26 -0400, William Clark wrote: >>>> In article <qgsda59thh0t9c1nct8341gbc57bpsf97n(a)4ax.com>, Jack Hollis >>>> <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The major problem with US health care is the cost. It's similar to >>>>> Cuban cigars. They're the best, no doubt about that, but are they >>>>> really worth 3 or 4 times as much as a top quality Dominican? >>>> >>>> Actually the Cuban cigars are a good analogy to US health care. >>>> Cuban cigars are the best, but they are kept unavailable to US >>>> citizens for no good reason by a special interest group that wants >>>> the market for itself. Just like insurance companies do for the >>>> public option in US health care. >>> >>> An excellent analogy. The corporations which own the US healthcare >>> system obviously want to keep prices as high as possible while >>> minimizing expenditures. Prices are inflated to absurd levels, claims >>> are denied whenever possible. A lot of money gets spread around for >>> astroturf campaigns and the like. Large numbers of people will >>> uncritically accept whatever they are told, so maybe big healthcare >>> will get away with it again. Who knows? >> >> "Large numbers of people will uncritically accept whatever they are >> told," >> >> LOL! > > It's true. Why do you think propaganda works? Seems to have worked on you.
From: MNMikeW on 15 Sep 2009 12:20 "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message news:4aaf1d3f$0$4971$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 23:18:44 -0400, BAR wrote: > >> I don't think you want to go down the articulate path. Obama doesn't >> go anywhere without his Tele-Prompter. When Obama speaks >> extemporaneously he sounds like an idiot and makes GWB's verbal >> miscues appear like normal stutters. > > Where are you true believers getting this garbage from anyway? Ummm, errrrr, ahhhhh.
From: Alan Baker on 15 Sep 2009 13:46 In article <ap-dnWv6Co3l7jLXnZ2dnUVZ_j5i4p2d(a)giganews.com>, BAR <Screw(a)You.Com> wrote: > Alan Baker wrote: > > In article <GfWdnaKYdMNymDLXnZ2dnUVZ_uOdnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, > > BAR <Screw(a)You.Com> wrote: > > > >> William Clark wrote: > >>> In article <G9GdndNa2dCdSjPXnZ2dnUVZ_gJi4p2d(a)giganews.com>, > >>> BAR <Screw(a)You.Com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> William Clark wrote: > >>>>> In article <4LGdnQusqJFTyzXXnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, > >>>>> BAR <Screw(a)You.Com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> William Clark wrote: > >>>>>>> In article <l5uca5d39v9sqb069e2dkooaruvri6es2i(a)4ax.com>, > >>>>>>> Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 08 Sep 2009 06:30:26 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> His SAT and LSAT scores would be very interesting. You can get a > >>>>>>>>>> pretty good idea of IQ from both of those scores. I wonder why he > >>>>>>>>>> hasn't released them. > >>>>>>>>> For the same reason that he didn't release his birth certificate to > >>>>>>>>> those birther loons: there is no upside to pandering to retards. > >>>>>>>> Actually he did release his birth certificate. > >>>>>>> It is in the public records. He didn't have to "release" anything. > >>>>>> He did not release a copy of his original birth certificate that was > >>>>>> issued at the time of his birth. There is a difference. > >>>>> No there is not. Sorry, but at least I accept that this is all you have. > >>>> Yes, there is a difference in the types of birth certificates that were > >>>> provided in 1961 and the ones provided now. I have more familiarity with > >>>> birth certificates issued in 1961 than you. > >>> Right, well too bad you got this one wrong. The only available > >>> certificate has been produced time and time again, but morons like you > >>> just can't stand a black man being President. > >> "The only available certificate has been produced." I can get one just > >> like Obama's too or I can get a copy of the true original certificate of > >> my birth. In fact I have certified copies of both. Funny thing is they > >> don't look the same. One is printed on funny colored paper and the other > >> is a negative image a record recored at the time of my birth. Hmmmm. > > > > Not if you're from Hawaii, you can't. > > > > The only certificate Hawaii issues is the one that has been produced. > > > > Did time start with yesterday's sunrise? No, but that has absolutely nothing to do with it. -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: William Clark on 15 Sep 2009 13:50 In article <7h9r9qF2qi6o7U1(a)mid.individual.net>, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > "William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message > news:clark-2C8E8B.11242015092009(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > > In article <4aafabcb$0$23784$bbae4d71(a)news.suddenlink.net>, > > "The moderator" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote: > > > > > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > > > news:4aaedafa$0$23950$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > > > > On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:44:12 -0700, Dinosaur_Sr wrote: > > > >> On Sep 13, 1:17 pm, Lloyd Parsons <lloydpars...(a)mac.com> wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Yet for all that, they provide the care for less in overhead cost > > > >>> than do the insurance companies. > > > >> > > > >> On what do you base that? All I see is govt squeezing primary care > > > >> providers. I see no reduction in overhead..just reduction in > > > >> allocation to the actual service. > > > > > > > > Of course the insurance companies do not have profit margins. Heaven > > > > forbid they would take a big fat cut right off the top. And it's not > > > > like the sea of documentation they require is a burden on every > medical > > > > practice in the country. Oh no. That would be totally inconceivable. > > > > > > What is the profit margin of the major health insurance providers? > > > > Profit margin is a poor metric for health insurance companies, since > > they have very little input, other than the money they need to cover > > potential losses, which is several times any expected losses. Return on > > invested capital (ROIC), or even return on equity (ROE), are much better > > measures. > > You are correct, William. > > -Greg Thank you :-)
From: Bobby Knight on 15 Sep 2009 13:57
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:45:12 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote: > >"Bobby Knight" <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message >news:6nuua5tllr6kh1n3r00hmfod6rqlg19gdj(a)4ax.com... >> On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 07:16:58 -0400, BAR <Screw(a)You.Com> wrote: >> >>>Bobby Knight wrote: >> >> Again, a birther is the bottom of the barrel of intelligence. >> >> BK >> -- >I think truthers already have that position. > Nope. BK |