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From: John B. on 2 Jun 2010 09:20 On Jun 1, 7:42 pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <a6615909-f7db-4d1e-a4e3-e915d2029c30 > @c11g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says... > > > > > > > > > On Jun 1, 7:06 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: > > > In article <MPG.266f596163adf470989...(a)news.giganews.com>, > > > > BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > In article <b2oa06laafgju7v1438dbvsmempedb8...(a)4ax.com>, > > > > xslee...(a)aol.com says... > > > > > > On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 08:50:28 -0700, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > >As I said, I don't know about your specific situation, but all those who > > > > > >posted that she must be an employee in the eyes of the IRS are simply > > > > > >wrong. > > > > > > No one, as far as I know said she had to be an employee, but the way > > > > > he explained it it's very likely that she is. However, either way the > > > > > money paid to her, once it passes a certain amount (used to be $600 a > > > > > year) has to be reported to the IRS. > > > > > She doesn't qualify as an independent contractor. She can't determine > > > > when and where she cleans your house. > > > > A plumber can't determine when: he has to make an appointment with you. > > > > He can't determine where: he has to do it where the plumbing is. > > > > Why is it necessarily different with a house cleaner? > > > It isn't. Bert doesn't know what he's talking about. He never does. > > Right! > > Did you put your home cleaning out for a bid or RFP / RFQ? > > http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=99921,00.html > > Your cleaning lady is your employee. Are you insane? How the hell would I put out an RFP for someone to come clean my house one day a week? My house is not a government agency.
From: dene on 2 Jun 2010 11:12 "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:634d7c35-b7d1-4def-b493-69d79f582322(a)q23g2000vba.googlegroups.com... On Jun 1, 7:42 pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <a6615909-f7db-4d1e-a4e3-e915d2029c30 > @c11g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says... > Did you put your home cleaning out for a bid or RFP / RFQ? > > http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=99921,00.html > > Your cleaning lady is your employee. Are you insane? How the hell would I put out an RFP for someone to come clean my house one day a week? My house is not a government agency. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Actually....Bert is probably right, but in the real world, there are laws that all must pay attention to and some that are rarely enforced, like front license plates. In Washington state, people who buy stuff in Oregon (no sales tax), are suppose to declare it and pay sales tax on it. Yeah.....right. So John....I wouldn't lose any sleep over this. Just don't run for office. -Greg
From: Alan Baker on 2 Jun 2010 11:52 In article <86nafpFcn3U1(a)mid.individual.net>, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:634d7c35-b7d1-4def-b493-69d79f582322(a)q23g2000vba.googlegroups.com... > On Jun 1, 7:42 pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > In article <a6615909-f7db-4d1e-a4e3-e915d2029c30 > > @c11g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says... > > Did you put your home cleaning out for a bid or RFP / RFQ? > > > > http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=99921,00.html > > > > Your cleaning lady is your employee. > > Are you insane? How the hell would I put out an RFP for someone to > come clean my house one day a week? My house is not a government > agency. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Actually....Bert is probably right, but in the real world, there are laws > that all must pay attention to and some that are rarely enforced, like front > license plates. No, Greg. Bert is not probably right. > > In Washington state, people who buy stuff in Oregon (no sales tax), are > suppose to declare it and pay sales tax on it. > > Yeah.....right. > > So John....I wouldn't lose any sleep over this. Just don't run for office. > > -Greg -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: John B. on 2 Jun 2010 11:55 On Jun 2, 11:12 am, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:634d7c35-b7d1-4def-b493-69d79f582322(a)q23g2000vba.googlegroups.com... > On Jun 1, 7:42 pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > > In article <a6615909-f7db-4d1e-a4e3-e915d2029c30 > > @c11g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says... > > Did you put your home cleaning out for a bid or RFP / RFQ? > > >http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=99921,00.html > > > Your cleaning lady is your employee. > > Are you insane? How the hell would I put out an RFP for someone to > come clean my house one day a week? My house is not a government > agency. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Actually....Bert is probably right, but in the real world, there are laws > that all must pay attention to and some that are rarely enforced, like front > license plates. > > In Washington state, people who buy stuff in Oregon (no sales tax), are > suppose to declare it and pay sales tax on it. > > Yeah.....right. > > So John....I wouldn't lose any sleep over this. Just don't run for office. > > -Greg It's apparently true that by paying my housekeeper in cash I'm running afoul of the IRS. But Bert's assertion that I should have posted an RFP (request for proposals), as government agencies do when they need private sector services is ridiculous.
From: Moderate on 2 Jun 2010 12:01
"John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:9d16a67a-c37a-4550-9237-ec6a5f2e6798(a)q8g2000vbm.googlegroups.com... On Jun 2, 11:12 am, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:634d7c35-b7d1-4def-b493-69d79f582322(a)q23g2000vba.googlegroups.com... > On Jun 1, 7:42 pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > > In article <a6615909-f7db-4d1e-a4e3-e915d2029c30 > > @c11g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says... > > Did you put your home cleaning out for a bid or RFP / RFQ? > > >http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=99921,00.html > > > Your cleaning lady is your employee. > > Are you insane? How the hell would I put out an RFP for someone to > come clean my house one day a week? My house is not a government > agency. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Actually....Bert is probably right, but in the real world, there are laws > that all must pay attention to and some that are rarely enforced, like > front > license plates. > > In Washington state, people who buy stuff in Oregon (no sales tax), are > suppose to declare it and pay sales tax on it. > > Yeah.....right. > > So John....I wouldn't lose any sleep over this. Just don't run for office. > > -Greg It's apparently true that by paying my housekeeper in cash I'm running afoul of the IRS. But Bert's assertion that I should have posted an RFP (request for proposals), as government agencies do when they need private sector services is ridiculous. ***************************************************** Surely you got a couple quotes, before hiring someone? Are you going to start reporting to the IRS? Are you going to complete form I-9? |