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From: Dinosaur_Sr on 20 Jan 2010 08:20 On Jan 20, 7:23 am, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 01:00:19 -0800, dene wrote: > > "R&B" <none_of_your_busin...(a)all.com> wrote in message > >news:2010012001542916807-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom... > > >> Dene, the majority of voting Americans voted for Obama's agenda a > >> year ago. Their disapproval now is not over how far-reaching his > >> agenda has been. They voted for it. They voted for SWEEPING CHANGE. > >> Their disapproval is over how little the Dems have been able to get > >> done with the obstructionist right standing in their way at every > >> step, and how watered-down the health care bill has become. > > > So you are among the small number of loons who do not think Obama is > > left enough. No surprise. He's surrounded himself with your types > > and they are completely out of touch with the pulse of America. > > > Yes....America voted for change, but not change that involves big > > government, higher taxes, bailouts, and deficits. America is voting > > for change once again and this time, it will be liberal Dems who get > > the boot, starting with Reid. > > I think Randy is right about this. People did vote for sweeping change, > especially for things like genuine healthcare reform. But the reality of > Washington is that you cannot get something without giving something > else away, and inevitably legislation becomes clogged with pork and > give-aways to special interests. The current healthcare reform bill has > been watered down to the extent that nobody likes it. > > The issue is not Obama. The issue is systemic corruption and a > government more beholden to special interest groups than it is to > voters. That's an excellent analysis, and the reason why you need to watch the power of the govt. It's less a corrupt nature of individuals and more just the nature of the beast.
From: Jack Hollis on 20 Jan 2010 08:35 On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 21:26:14 -0800, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > Been watching MessNBC, including your >Rachel. I don't think I ever enjoyed watching MSNBC as much as I did last night.
From: Jack Hollis on 20 Jan 2010 08:43 On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 05:28:45 -0600, "Moderate" <sparky@_engineer_.com> wrote: > >"dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote in message >news:7rn9q2FdciU1(a)mid.individual.net... >> The Bay State Independents have spoken, along with some disgruntled Dems. >> This is a huge victory for America's center-right majority, who want >> common >> sense change; not Commie, borrow from the Chinese, change. >> >> Americans are tired of big government and it's never ceasing appetite for >> more of our's and our children's money. >> >> Wake up, Obama! Cya Reid. >> >> -Greg > >A complete rejection of Obama's policies. Obama is a one termer. Not so fast. Clinton's first two years were rejected by the voters and he was able to recover, so don't count Obama out just yet, However, Obama's agenda is dead. I can't imagine that the Democrats are stupid enough to try and push the health care bill through. They're going to take more losses in November. If they push on health care the losses could be catastrophic. Obviously cap and tax is not going to pass and neither is the union card check bill. Ultimately, Obama will have accomplished nothing.
From: Jack Hollis on 20 Jan 2010 08:45 On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 07:21:01 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: >Which Democrat is going to want Obama to campaign for them in the >upcoming 2010 races. The odds are that somebody will eventually win but >who wants to be their political future that they will be that in a >thousand? Bush had eight years to turn a majority of Americans against the Republican Party. Obama has done that to the Democrats in one year.
From: Moderate on 20 Jan 2010 08:56
"Jack Hollis" <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:9p1el550u2qf6qd550p06nqp3j0j5it4i2(a)4ax.com... > On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 05:28:45 -0600, "Moderate" <sparky@_engineer_.com> > wrote: > >> >>"dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote in message >>news:7rn9q2FdciU1(a)mid.individual.net... >>> The Bay State Independents have spoken, along with some disgruntled >>> Dems. >>> This is a huge victory for America's center-right majority, who want >>> common >>> sense change; not Commie, borrow from the Chinese, change. >>> >>> Americans are tired of big government and it's never ceasing appetite >>> for >>> more of our's and our children's money. >>> >>> Wake up, Obama! Cya Reid. >>> >>> -Greg >> >>A complete rejection of Obama's policies. Obama is a one termer. > > > Not so fast. Clinton's first two years were rejected by the voters > and he was able to recover, so don't count Obama out just yet, > > However, Obama's agenda is dead. I can't imagine that the Democrats > are stupid enough to try and push the health care bill through. > They're going to take more losses in November. If they push on health > care the losses could be catastrophic. > > Obviously cap and tax is not going to pass and neither is the union > card check bill. Ultimately, Obama will have accomplished nothing. Clinton took over as the economy was rising. Obama inherited a bad economy under his leadership it has gotten much worse. Clinton initially cut spending Obama has increased spending. |