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From: John B. on 10 May 2010 20:51 On May 10, 7:57 pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <b7a230ab-06a3-4fd7-9b9d-c3656cb2d549 > @j35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says... > > > > > > > On May 9, 10:32 pm, kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On May 9, 9:13 am, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 09 May 2010 09:58:26 -0400, BAR wrote: > > > > > In article <4be6bd3c$0$21861$9a6e1...(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > > > > > nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > > > > >> On Sun, 09 May 2010 01:07:56 -0400, BAR wrote: > > > > >>> In article <e9313f6a-885e-44f8-b4cb-5362aeb48277 > > > > >>> @b7g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says... > > > > > >>>> How is that reciprocal when Americans can own property in Mexico? > > > > > >>> Please provide proof that US nationals can be majority owners of > > > > >>> real property in Mexico. > > > > > >> Please provide proof that rounding up undocumented workers by the > > > > >> thousands and murdering them is a good idea. > > > > > > Nice try buddy. The legal term is illegal aliens. > > > > > > I never said anything about rounding up illegal aliens and murdering > > > > > them. What I said is we round up illegal aliens and we ship them back > > > > > to their country of origin. > > > > > > What we need to do is put the US military on our borders and shoot > > > > > anyone trying to enter the country illegally. > > > > > Please provide proof that putting the US military on the border and > > > > shooting anyone trying to enter the country illegally is a good idea.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > Proof? We don't need no stinking proof. It is clearly a good idea. > > > > Ken > > > If you're stupid and barbaric. > > Do you have locks on the doors of your house and cars? If yes, why? Yes, to protect my family from people like you.
From: Howard Brazee on 10 May 2010 20:50 On Mon, 10 May 2010 09:25:59 -0700 (PDT), "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote: >If narcotics are made legal and easy to buy, will drug addiction - and >the many problems it imposes on society - go up or down? Total amount? We're guessing. What happened when Prohibition was repealed? The population of abusers will likely be different. We won't have as many problems with criminal gangs. The people working on the problem will be social workers, freeing up police to do other vital work. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: John B. on 10 May 2010 20:54 On May 10, 8:20 pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Mon, 10 May 2010 09:25:59 -0700 (PDT), "John B." > > <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >If narcotics are made legal and easy to buy, will drug addiction - and > >the many problems it imposes on society - go up or down? > > The many problems imposed on society by drugs being illegal will go > down. Those problems include violent crime, disease, poverty, prostitution, child abuse and neglect, homelessness. Why would legalizing drugs cause them to diminish?
From: John B. on 10 May 2010 20:56 On May 10, 8:21 pm, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > On Sun, 09 May 2010 22:10:13 -0700, dene wrote: > > "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > >news:4be78b05$0$4851$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > > >>> And your solution is?? > > >> Let 'em stay. Undocumented workers are the modern equivalent of > >> slaves. They do jobs Americans will not do for almost no money, for > >> no benefits. They pay for benefits that they cannot legally claim. > >> Companies who use them make higher profits, stock prices go up, etc. > >> They're a net gain for the US. > > >> This Dobbsian anti-immigration hysteria (THEY'RE SPREADING > >> LEPROSY!!!) surfaces whenever the Republicans are out of office, and > >> dies away again when they get back in. All this racism does wonders > >> for rallying the true believers, but the reality is that many > >> important industries are dependent on undocumented workers. Tyson > >> Foods, et al, do not care which party is in power; they will grease > >> however many palms it takes to ensure that their cheap labor pool is > >> left alone. > > >> So, my take is that the money does not want immigration reform, > >> therefore it will not happen. Also, it's very possible that illegal > >> workers are a net gain to the economy. I have never heard a coherent > >> argument to the contrary from the right. > > > So the economic gain outweighs the cost of prisons, education, and > > unpaid trips to the ER. > > It is very possible. However most of the anti-immigration zealots are > too busy hating Mexicans to think about it rationally. > > > Why not enforce the law/borders and create a system of temporary > > workers? > > I could go along with the temp worker part. Putting in a program with > the resources to actually prevent people from sneaking into the country > would be so insanely expensive that it would never pay. Better to be > practical about it. I think it's possible to seal the land border without it being insanely expensive, but they would just find other ways into the U.S.
From: William Clark on 10 May 2010 21:02
In article <MPG.2651b7bc34e25595989ec4(a)news.giganews.com>, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <457cf279-2014-443a-b7f5-ee36a8baf4d3 > @k31g2000vbu.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says... > > > > On May 9, 9:58�am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > > In article <4be6bd3c$0$21861$9a6e1...(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > > > nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 09 May 2010 01:07:56 -0400, BAR wrote: > > > > > In article <e9313f6a-885e-44f8-b4cb-5362aeb48277 > > > > > @b7g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says... > > > > > > > >> How is that reciprocal when Americans can own property in Mexico? > > > > > > > > Please provide proof that US nationals can be majority owners of real > > > > > property in Mexico. > > > > > > > Please provide proof that rounding up undocumented workers by the > > > > thousands and murdering them is a good idea. > > > > > > Nice try buddy. The legal term is illegal aliens. > > > > > > I never said anything about rounding up illegal aliens and murdering > > > them. What I said is we round up illegal aliens and we ship them back to > > > their country of origin. > > > > > > What we need to do is put the US military on our borders and shoot > > > anyone trying to enter the country illegally. > > > > You also said that illegal aliens caught here should be tattooed, like > > the Nazis did to Jews. > > No, I said we should tattoo those caught here as illegal aliens and then > deport them. The scarlet letter has its uses. Why not just tattoo a number on their arms and then send them to extermination camps? Oh, wait, someone else tried that, didn't they? |