From: Howard Brazee on
On Sat, 15 May 2010 14:28:15 -0400, Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com>
wrote:

>It's important to remember that US citizens and legal aliens can never
>be charged with being in the country illegally.

Sure we can be charged. That's why I demand due process.

>That's a big
>difference. However, illegal aliens are entitled to due process, like
>every citizen. In this case, due process is defined as an
>administrative procedure that entitles the person with an opportunity
>to prove that he/she is in the country legally. If this can't be
>done, the person can be deported immediately.
>
>Bottom line, if you're an illegal alien you have the right to prove
>that you're not an illegal alien. That's about it.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison
From: Howard Brazee on
On Sat, 15 May 2010 11:53:14 -0700, Don Kirkman <donsno2(a)charter.net>
wrote:

>Some religious cultures have thought in terms of when the embryo is
>"ensouled" or receives its soul, in cultures that believe in a
>separation of soul and body. But that timing is even harder to agree
>on than the timing of viability.

The Bible has it when the baby's head passes out in birth.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison
From: Howard Brazee on
On Sat, 15 May 2010 12:18:37 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:

>> Before the AMA decided women weren't qualified to make the decision,
>> abortions were common until the embryo quickened into a fetus. This
>> happens pretty much as the brain developed.
>
>You do realize that the AMA (American Medicla Association) only counts
>about 17% of all of the licensed medical doctors in the US as members.
>The AMA is no where near a majority voice of the licensed doctors.

It had the political power to change the laws.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison
From: Howard Brazee on
On Sat, 15 May 2010 19:50:35 -0500, Horvath(a)net.net wrote:

>>>There are going to be tears and anguish, but the law should be;
>>>your body, your choice.
>
>Then why isn't prostitution legal?

Notice he said "the law should be". It would be perfectly
consistent to apply that to prostitution.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison
From: dene on

"Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4bef2683$0$21944$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
> On Sat, 15 May 2010 15:19:03 -0700, dene wrote:
> > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:4beea1e1$0$4863$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
>
> >> And anyway, the woman has the right to choose, full stop.
> >
> > 200 years ago, men could own slaves. Doesn't make it right.
>
> This is what is really going on. You wish to impose your religious
> values upon others, over-riding their natural sovereignty over
> their own bodies. Greg, people have the right to make decisions you
> don't like.

Nice diversion but my views regarding innocent life has nothing to do with
religion. I could make a claim that your disregard for the unborn has to do
with atheism.....but that would be silly, wouldn't it?

-Greg