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From: John B. on 7 Jun 2010 09:14 On Jun 6, 7:10 pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:11:16 -0700 (PDT), "John B." > > <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> In any case, Bush got the blame even though, as you say, he had > >> nothing to do with it. =A0Unfortunately for Obama, he will also get the > >> blame for the failures of the Gulf oil leak. =A0And it looks like this > >> is going to go on for a long time. > > >FEMA had responded well to previous hurricanes because it was staffed > >with people with experience and expertise in emergency management, > >e.g. Jamie Lee Whitt. Bush turned it into a dumping ground for > >political pals and people who had worked on his campaign. "Brownie" > >had zero - repeat: zero - background in emergency services. Even if > >they had known what they were doing, it's kind of ridiculous to > >suggest that the incompetence of local officials kept them from being > >able to do their job. > > There were 4 major hurricanes in Fla in 2004 and just after Katrina > came Rita in Texas and FIMA did fine. No, the disaster in NO was due > to incompetent local officials. There was nothing else approaching the scale of Katrina in 2004. Complaints about FEMA's incompetence in New Orleans were legion. But since FEMA (not FIMA) was under GOP control and state and local officials were Democrats, you refuse to accept that FEMA didn't do a good job.
From: Moderate on 7 Jun 2010 09:33 "William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message news:clark-34AD14.07500807062010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > In article <64bo069mdphbgnd29qml1s0m8jshnojoaq(a)4ax.com>, > Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote: > >> On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 15:26:50 -0500, bknight(a)conramp.net wrote: >> >> >>But Katrina was an act of God. The oil spill was caused by BP and >> >>they're Obama's biggest campaign contributor. >> > >> >How, in any way, does that make Obama or the government accountable >> >for cleaning up BP's mess? >> >> The blame for this mess will be shared by BP and Obama. When you're >> in charge, there's no way to avoid blame. It's not fair, but that's >> the way it is. > > "In charge" of what? There is only one entity here "in charge" of oil > drilling (and spreading lies and misinformation), and it is not Obama. I guess the Department of the Interior does not count.
From: William Clark on 7 Jun 2010 09:56 In article <huisfl$2k0$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote: > "William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message > news:clark-34AD14.07500807062010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > > In article <64bo069mdphbgnd29qml1s0m8jshnojoaq(a)4ax.com>, > > Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > >> On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 15:26:50 -0500, bknight(a)conramp.net wrote: > >> > >> >>But Katrina was an act of God. The oil spill was caused by BP and > >> >>they're Obama's biggest campaign contributor. > >> > > >> >How, in any way, does that make Obama or the government accountable > >> >for cleaning up BP's mess? > >> > >> The blame for this mess will be shared by BP and Obama. When you're > >> in charge, there's no way to avoid blame. It's not fair, but that's > >> the way it is. > > > > "In charge" of what? There is only one entity here "in charge" of oil > > drilling (and spreading lies and misinformation), and it is not Obama. > > I guess the Department of the Interior does not count. You mean like you do not think?
From: bknight on 7 Jun 2010 10:09 On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 05:40:51 -0600, Howard Brazee <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote: >On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 21:07:13 -0500, bknight(a)conramp.net wrote: > >>>Wow. Where do you start? Obama shows no leadership. he should have >>>had James Cameron there on day one. He should have had the director >>>of Transformers there putting underwater robots plugging the hole. >> >>Ridiculous. The government has no reason, wherewithal, or the >>experience in deep sea recovery or drilling. The very idea of idiot >>conservatives wanting the government to get involved with private >>business is hypocritical, but expected. > >Did you notice the words "Transformers" and "Cameron"? Your >response didn't appear to recognize the joke. I recognize Horvath as a joke. Period. BK
From: bknight on 7 Jun 2010 10:18
On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 07:53:46 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: >In article <ekmp06tn5jg0s68hcl6fu47rvvvf68q0su(a)4ax.com>, >howard(a)brazee.net says... >> >> On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 21:07:13 -0500, bknight(a)conramp.net wrote: >> >> >>Wow. Where do you start? Obama shows no leadership. he should have >> >>had James Cameron there on day one. He should have had the director >> >>of Transformers there putting underwater robots plugging the hole. >> > >> >Ridiculous. The government has no reason, wherewithal, or the >> >experience in deep sea recovery or drilling. The very idea of idiot >> >conservatives wanting the government to get involved with private >> >business is hypocritical, but expected. >> >> Did you notice the words "Transformers" and "Cameron"? Your >> response didn't appear to recognize the joke. > >That is Bobby's problem. He reads into things what he wants not what is >there. Bobby has lost the ability to read and comprehend and connect the >dots on a broader scale. BP hasn't allowed anyone's suggestions to penetrate their stubbornness. Cameron has more experience at greater depths than this drilling, and they ignored him The fact is that I don't find that funny. But then, your IQ of 150+ (what a joke) might. BK |