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From: William Clark on 7 Jun 2010 22:06 In article <it5r06d7r6ngth70ctkdkg3i8juql8rs9u(a)4ax.com>, Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 17:01:14 -0700 (PDT), "John B." > <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >It may count for something, like getting your phone calls returned, > >but it's ridiculous to think it would compel the president to expand > >off-shore drilling. > > If you add up all the contributions from all the other oil and oil > related companies to Obama and all the other politicians then it does > become compelling. Actually, it really does not. 60% of what BP gave went to the GoP, so you could argue more strongly that the current Rethuglican attempts to use BP's failure to smear Obama has been bought and paid for by BP.
From: John B. on 7 Jun 2010 22:07 On Jun 7, 9:28 pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 17:03:02 -0700 (PDT), "John B." > > <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> The blame for this mess will be shared by BP and Obama. =A0When you're > >> in charge, there's no way to avoid blame. =A0It's not fair, but that's > >> the way it is. > > >And those who blame Obama -- what will they say he did or didn't do > >that was wrong? > > Failure of federal regulatory agencies to properly supervise BP's > operations. This is especially true considering BP's previous safety > violations. The federal regulators were asleep at the switch. > > Failure to comprehend the seriousness of the situation leading to slow > and inadequate response with cleanup effort. > > Things like this from ABC News: > > "Jindal is still waiting for the federal government to provide > millions of feet in boom and to approve an emergency permit for a > state plan to dredge and build new barrier islands to keep the oil > from reaching the marshes and wetlands. > > Jindal is so desperate for the islands, he's said he'll build them > even if it sends him to jail. > > "We've been frustrated with the disjointed effort to date that has too > often meant too little, too late for the oil hitting our coast," > Jindal said." > > The bottom line is that people can see every night on TV that what the > government is doing isn't working. This will go on and on for > months. All fed. agcys. that have authority for environmental regulation are close to impotent because Republicans in Congress and the White House have been slashing their budgets and hog-tying them for decades.
From: BAR on 8 Jun 2010 07:12 In article <lg0r06dnpo3sqdhpfjv19ccfsrnv61kj07(a)4ax.com>, bknight(a)conramp.net says... > > On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 19:29:44 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > >In article <c6uq06ltdu57hm7v2imagsacpdu8oeu9so(a)4ax.com>, > >bknight(a)conramp.net says... > >> > >> On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 18:18:21 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > >> > >> >In article <fmvp06paftfupdknq25qqsg3hquokirom2(a)4ax.com>, > >> >bknight(a)conramp.net says... > >> >> > >> > >> > > >> >How many broken oil drilling pipes has Cameron fixed in 5,000 feet of > >> >water? > >> > > >> >Cameron is a joke. > >> > > >> >> But then, your IQ of 150+ (what a joke) might. > >> > >> I'd say read and learn, but just read. You never learn. > >> > >> http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2010/jun/02/james-cameron-underwater-oil-spill > > > >There is a big difference between driving around and taking pictures and > >capping an oil leak. > > > >Again, how many oil leaks at 5,000 feet below the surface has Cameron > >stopped? How many sub-surface oil leaks has Cameron stopped. We don't > >need anyone taking more pictures of blue sea creatures. > > I was right. Either you didn't read the article, or you didn't learn > anything. I talked to a public offical the other day too big deal. Cameron has zero experience in stopping oil leaks above or below the surface of the water. All he can do is take pictures.
From: BAR on 8 Jun 2010 07:17 In article <wclark2-99A8BD.20004007062010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... > > In article <MPG.2677399171a7cfa598a00d(a)news.giganews.com>, > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > In article <clark-34AD14.07500807062010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > > state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says... > > > > > > In article <64bo069mdphbgnd29qml1s0m8jshnojoaq(a)4ax.com>, > > > Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 15:26:50 -0500, bknight(a)conramp.net wrote: > > > > > > > > >>But Katrina was an act of God. The oil spill was caused by BP and > > > > >>they're Obama's biggest campaign contributor. > > > > > > > > > >How, in any way, does that make Obama or the government accountable > > > > >for cleaning up BP's mess? > > > > > > > > The blame for this mess will be shared by BP and Obama. When you're > > > > in charge, there's no way to avoid blame. It's not fair, but that's > > > > the way it is. > > > > > > "In charge" of what? There is only one entity here "in charge" of oil > > > drilling (and spreading lies and misinformation), and it is not Obama. > > > > Department of Energy = Obama Appointee. > > > > Department of the Interior = Obama Appointee. > > > > Department of Homeland Security = Obama Appointee. > > > > Obama can run from but, he can't hide from this one. > > And which of these Departments carries the equipment and expertise to > cap a defective oil well? > > None? I thought not. Sorry, Bertie, but your beloved free enterprise > system is stuck with this one, however much you wish it weren't so. So you are admitting that the government is incompetent in this area? But, the governemnt had a plan that Obama failed to implement. http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway- confidential/Former-NOAA-oil-spill-cleanup-boss-says-Obama-waited-too- long-in-Gulf-disaster--92631189.html
From: BAR on 8 Jun 2010 07:18
In article <wclark2-DF840B.20103207062010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... > > In article <MPG.26774af790c1305c98a016(a)news.giganews.com>, > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > In article <c6uq06ltdu57hm7v2imagsacpdu8oeu9so(a)4ax.com>, > > bknight(a)conramp.net says... > > > > > > On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 18:18:21 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > > > >In article <fmvp06paftfupdknq25qqsg3hquokirom2(a)4ax.com>, > > > >bknight(a)conramp.net says... > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >How many broken oil drilling pipes has Cameron fixed in 5,000 feet of > > > >water? > > > > > > > >Cameron is a joke. > > > > > > > >> But then, your IQ of 150+ (what a joke) might. > > > > > > I'd say read and learn, but just read. You never learn. > > > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2010/jun/02/james-cameron-underwater-oil-spil > > > l > > > > There is a big difference between driving around and taking pictures and > > capping an oil leak. > > > > Again, how many oil leaks at 5,000 feet below the surface has Cameron > > stopped? How many sub-surface oil leaks has Cameron stopped. We don't > > need anyone taking more pictures of blue sea creatures. > > So let's get this straight - you scream at Obama for not sending in the > Feds to fix this leak, and then you deride Cameron as knowing nothing > about fixing oil leaks at 5,000 feet? You are simply a loon. How much > more expertise do you think resides in the Feds to do this very same > thing? Zero - it's BP's bailiwick. You are not a manager are you? |