From: John B. on
On Feb 21, 8:21 am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> In article <c25cede8-f26f-4fe0-b9de-5587f383cb03
> @t42g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says...
>
>
>
>
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> > On Feb 20, 7:12 pm, assimil...(a)borg.org wrote:
> > > On 20-Feb-2010, "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Every industrialized country on earth offers universal health care
> > > > > > except the U.S., yet the U.S. is the only one of them that's embroiled
> > > > > > in a debate about health care.
>
> > > > > so since every one else jumped off the bridge we should too?
>
> > > > > --
> > > > > bill-o
>
> > > > The fact that other OECD countries are not having a civil war about
> > > > health care the way we are kind of suggests that they don't think
> > > > they've jumped off a bridge.
>
> > > What they think about their situation is irrelevant.
>
> > > --
> > > bill-o
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> > And I thought you were smart.
>
> The French built the Maginot Line. Should England and Canada done the
> same thing after WWI?

What?
From: BAR on
In article <4b81550b$0$4862$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
> >>
> >> You're insane. This health denial system you're so fond of is
> >> probably going to let this guy die. But not before spending thousands
> >> on chemo for something that probably could have been treated much
> >> less expensively months ago.
> >
> > I like how you have started to call it the "health denial system" it
> > is cute, it is not effective but, it is cute.
> >
> > Your friend should have engaged the medical system earlier. He has no
> > one to blame except himself. As the statics show the sooner a person
> > is treated for cancer the greater the survival rate.
>
> Perhaps there should be armed guards at the hospitals to keep the sick
> away. Those who would cost the healthcare system too much money could be
> hauled out back and shot. Problem solved, eh Bert? After all, the poor
> have no one to blame but themselves.

Not to keep the sick away, just the smelly people out? You know the ones
you found offensive when you last visited the ER.



From: BAR on
In article <f39b8675-557f-4750-a74c-
f257cc1169ad(a)k11g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says...
>
> On Feb 21, 8:21�am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> > In article <c25cede8-f26f-4fe0-b9de-5587f383cb03
> > @t42g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Feb 20, 7:12�pm, assimil...(a)borg.org wrote:
> > > > On 20-Feb-2010, "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > Every industrialized country on earth offers universal health care
> > > > > > > except the U.S., yet the U.S. is the only one of them that's embroiled
> > > > > > > in a debate about health care.
> >
> > > > > > so since every one else jumped off the bridge we should too?
> >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > bill-o
> >
> > > > > The fact that other OECD countries are not having a civil war about
> > > > > health care the way we are kind of suggests that they don't think
> > > > > they've jumped off a bridge.
> >
> > > > What they think about their situation is irrelevant.
> >
> > > > --
> > > > bill-o
> >
> > > And I thought you were smart.
> >
> > The French built the Maginot Line. Should England and Canada done the
> > same thing after WWI?
>
> What?

I figured that would go over your head.


From: Carbon on
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:04:04 -0500, BAR wrote:
> In article <f39b8675-557f-4750-a74c-
> f257cc1169ad(a)k11g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says...
>> On Feb 21, 8:21 am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
>>> In article <c25cede8-f26f-4fe0-b9de-5587f383cb03
>>> @t42g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says...
>>>> On Feb 20, 7:12 pm, assimil...(a)borg.org wrote:
>>>>> On 20-Feb-2010, "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Every industrialized country on earth offers universal health
>>>>>>>> care except the U.S., yet the U.S. is the only one of them
>>>>>>>> that's embroiled in a debate about health care.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so since every one else jumped off the bridge we should too?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The fact that other OECD countries are not having a civil war
>>>>>> about health care the way we are kind of suggests that they don't
>>>>>> think they've jumped off a bridge.
>>>>>
>>>>> What they think about their situation is irrelevant.
>>>>
>>>> And I thought you were smart.
>>>
>>> The French built the Maginot Line. Should England and Canada done
>>> the same thing after WWI?
>>
>> What?
>
> I figured that would go over your head.

Really? How so?
From: Carbon on
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 10:59:01 -0500, BAR wrote:
> In article <4b81550b$0$4862$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>>>
>>>> You're insane. This health denial system you're so fond of is
>>>> probably going to let this guy die. But not before spending
>>>> thousands on chemo for something that probably could have been
>>>> treated much less expensively months ago.
>>>
>>> I like how you have started to call it the "health denial system" it
>>> is cute, it is not effective but, it is cute.
>>>
>>> Your friend should have engaged the medical system earlier. He has
>>> no one to blame except himself. As the statics show the sooner a
>>> person is treated for cancer the greater the survival rate.
>>
>> Perhaps there should be armed guards at the hospitals to keep the
>> sick away. Those who would cost the healthcare system too much money
>> could be hauled out back and shot. Problem solved, eh Bert? After
>> all, the poor have no one to blame but themselves.
>
> Not to keep the sick away, just the smelly people out? You know the
> ones you found offensive when you last visited the ER.

You almost never say anything prescriptive, about what should be done.
Here is your chance. What should happen with the hundreds of thousands
of people like my friend, who lost their jobs and insurance in the
recession and then became sick. Should they be forcibly removed from the
hospitals and left to die, to keep your taxes and insurance premiums as
low as possible? Should they be shot in the back of the head, since that
solution is even cheaper? Please, impress us with your humanity.