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From: BAR on 5 May 2010 18:40 In article <a5074d56-6a59-4605-ad93- 839a7547457e(a)r11g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says... > > Closing the border and finding a fair and reasonable way to assimilate > those who are here, expect those who have committed crimes in the U.S. > Rounding up 7m people and herding them across the border is not a > plausible solution. It is a plausible solution. You just don't want to do it. And, your numbers are woefully short, most government entities and officials have the number of illegal aliens at 12 million.
From: Howard Brazee on 5 May 2010 18:46 On Wed, 5 May 2010 11:01:42 -0700 (PDT), larryrsf <larryd(a)delmardata.com> wrote: >All illegals will self-deport when legal jobs dry up and when they >cannot live on welfare, etc. Very simple. We need to do what EVERY >country in the world does--make draconian punishment for those who >knowingly employ illegals. Jail, confiscated businesses, etc. But pay for the check. The Ma and Pa restaurant needs to be able to cheaply and quickly check every prospective employee's status. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: Howard Brazee on 5 May 2010 19:02 On 05 May 2010 12:57:35 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >How many American citizens do you know who would be willing to work 12 >hour days bent over picking strawberries for less than minimum wage, >with no benefits? > >From a business perspective, undocumented workers are a gift from >heaven. Hard working, no expensive benefits to worry about, and they >have no legal recourse if you feel like screwing them over. They're >perfect. And when a worker has a fake ID, he pays taxes, including FICA. Paying in FICA without getting it back benefits the rest of us. The developed countries of the world have lots of baby boomers retiring. Most all of them have a lot fewer young citizens entering the work place to pay FICA taxes to support the rest of us. But even in the U.S., this demographic is expensive. When you put your mother in a nursing home, or when you move into a retirement home, you will find immigrant workers keep costs from being as high as they would be otherwise. Sure, most of these are legal immigrants, but don't send her to sunny Arizona, those legal immigrants who don't want to be hassled will move elsewhere. >For the benefit of those who somehow haven't noticed the same cycle >repeating over and over: when the Republicans are out of office the >screeching about illegals rises in volume. When the Republicans get back >in power the screeching suddenly stops. Why? Because agriculture, >construction, et cetera are big, important industries and they would be >financially devastated without undocumented workers. They spread a lot >of money around in Washington to ensure that their precious cheap labor >force is left alone. Very much so. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: Howard Brazee on 5 May 2010 19:03 On Wed, 5 May 2010 09:50:19 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote: >>> Perhaps the employers shouldn't be doing this in the first place. >> >> No interfering with the free market, you socialist! > >So we can abolish the minimum wage then? Sure, how many citizens work for the minimum wage? -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: Howard Brazee on 5 May 2010 19:05
On Wed, 05 May 2010 11:36:14 -0500, bknight(a)conramp.net wrote: >So if we could find American workers who wouldn't mind hard work, and >lay off heroin products, it would go a long way in fixing both >problems. :-) Or make the drugs legal and have Big Business run it, Mexico won't be living under prohibition style gangsters. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison |