From: Jack Hollis on
On Wed, 05 May 2010 17:02:53 -0600, Howard Brazee <howard(a)brazee.net>
wrote:

>When you put your mother in a nursing home, or when you move into a
>retirement home, you will find immigrant workers keep costs from being
>as high as they would be otherwise.

I don't think that anyone around here is against immigrant workers.
That's what made this country what it is. It's illegal immigrants
that's the problem.
From: Howard Brazee on
On Wed, 5 May 2010 18:40:12 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:

>> Closing the border and finding a fair and reasonable way to assimilate
>> those who are here, expect those who have committed crimes in the U.S.
>> Rounding up 7m people and herding them across the border is not a
>> plausible solution.
>
>It is a plausible solution. You just don't want to do it. And, your
>numbers are woefully short, most government entities and officials have
>the number of illegal aliens at 12 million.

I'm not at all convinced we can make a physical border that will stop
enough. And there are illegal Asians and Europeans entering via the
Canadian border.


--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison
From: Howard Brazee on
On Wed, 05 May 2010 20:17:43 -0400, Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com>
wrote:

>3. Children born to illegal aliens in the US are not US citizens.

There is no doubt in my mind that the Supreme Court would throw that
out without a Constitutional Amendment.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison
From: Howard Brazee on
On Wed, 05 May 2010 21:06:38 -0400, Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com>
wrote:

>>When you put your mother in a nursing home, or when you move into a
>>retirement home, you will find immigrant workers keep costs from being
>>as high as they would be otherwise.
>
>I don't think that anyone around here is against immigrant workers.
>That's what made this country what it is. It's illegal immigrants
>that's the problem.

That's the claim. But they get angry when they see people speaking
foreign languages and living with different cultural values. They
don't believe 2/3 of the immigrants are legal.

Look at history, hatred of immigrants is very, very common - whether
or not they are "illegal". A century ago, the claim was that we
couldn't have Americans who were papists. But it was the same thing
- they didn't act like "Americans", and they took jobs. We're not
as mad now because we don't want the low skill jobs. But we feel
threatened anyway.

That's the claim - and people like my wife even believe it when they
claim it. But I think they are fooling themselves.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison
From: F. Kurgan Gringioni on

"Jack Hollis" <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote in message
news:4934u5hbsh3u09r054ojahq3fa4515nskn(a)4ax.com...
> On Wed, 5 May 2010 14:59:54 -0400, "Frank Ketchum"
> <nospam(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote:
>
>>I am not an advocate of drug use, but I can see this for what it is. Our
>>current cure is worse than the disease.
>
> Absolutely. The US doesn't have a drug problem, it has a drug problem
> problem.



Hey, I actually agree with you about something. :)