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From: MNMikeW on 6 May 2010 13:49 "R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote in message news:2010050612314318056-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom... > > But as to the Arizona law specifically... > > But where the Arizona law really runs into problems is where police in > that state won't stop me because I "look" illegal, but they could stop > Maria or Miguel, my neighbors, who are both second-generation US citizens, > both born in this country to immigrant citizens of the US. That's where > this law runs into serious constitutional questions. And that's why I > oppose it. It places legal citizens in situations we've only read about > in history books and seen in movies about the Gestapo in Germany. It's > unAmerican. > > Randy > This is wrong Randy. The law specifically states there must be lawful contact BEFORE any paper checking can happen. They cannot simply pull you over for looking a specific way.
From: dene on 6 May 2010 14:40 "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message news:alangbaker-4D19C7.09554806052010(a)news.shawcable.com... > In article > <df176351-2919-4594-b37f-d5879968a0c0(a)r34g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, > "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On May 6, 2:40 am, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: > > > In article <84f553Fm3...(a)mid.individual.net>, > > > > > > "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message > > > >news:alangbaker-2DD8BA.21542905052010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > > > > In article <t0e3u59l82g1f7i53jt4jsofo7f7b81...(a)4ax.com>, > > > > > bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote: > > > > > > > > I am. > > > > > > > > What business has the state in telling you what you do to yourself? > > > > > > > Because few men are islands. Getting stoned everyday has a direct effect > > > > on > > > > other people. Duh! > > > > > > Such as? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Go back to nitpicking and leave sincere discussion to grownups. > > > > > > LOL > > > > > > -- > > > Alan Baker > > > Vancouver, British Columbia > > > <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg> > > > > "LOL" is a very weak rhetorical device. > > And it was all that was required for the sentence it answered. If Alan was honest, he'd admit that it's the most intelligent answer he can come up with. There is a reason why he shirks normal discussion. He's just isn't particularily bright. -Greg
From: Carbon on 6 May 2010 18:22 On Thu, 06 May 2010 12:49:06 -0500, MNMikeW wrote: > "R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote in message > news:2010050612314318056-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom... > >> But as to the Arizona law specifically... >> >> But where the Arizona law really runs into problems is where police >> in that state won't stop me because I "look" illegal, but they could >> stop Maria or Miguel, my neighbors, who are both second-generation US >> citizens, both born in this country to immigrant citizens of the US. >> That's where this law runs into serious constitutional questions. >> And that's why I oppose it. It places legal citizens in situations >> we've only read about in history books and seen in movies about the >> Gestapo in Germany. It's unAmerican. > > This is wrong Randy. The law specifically states there must be lawful > contact BEFORE any paper checking can happen. They cannot simply pull > you over for looking a specific way. Yeah, because the police would never routinely pull visible minorities over like that.
From: BAR on 6 May 2010 18:23 In article <ac09e4e5-0f23-446d-8b62- 6c139ab82d1f(a)o8g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says... > This is not a simple matter of what one does to oneself. Drug addicts > impose costs on society. They commit crimes to get money for drugs. > They can't hold jobs. They go on welfare. They get sick and require > medical care they can't pay for. They have children that they can't > properly care for and those children grow up to be screw-ups who > impose further costs on society. > > You have just described the burden that illegal aliens place upon the citizens of the USA.
From: Carbon on 6 May 2010 18:24
On Thu, 06 May 2010 10:26:03 -0700, dene wrote: > "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message > news:alangbaker-BBDD34.09552206052010(a)news.shawcable.com... > >>> They can't hold jobs. They go on welfare. They get sick and require >>> medical care they can't pay for. They have children that they can't >>> properly care for and those children grow up to be screw-ups who >>> impose further costs on society. >> >> They're doing all that *now*. > > And the problem would worsen if it were legal. Duh! You're sure of this? |