From: bknight on
On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 20:56:03 -0800, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com>
wrote:

>
><bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
>news:vckro55ujverpfu4mf9lgf9klr8nc9r687(a)4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 20:40:50 -0500, Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com>
>> wrote:

>> >Businessmen are smarter than politicians.
>>
>> George Bush was a businessman.
>>
>> QED
>>
>> BK
>
>And the Democrats lost to him....twice.


What does that have to do with Hollis' statement and my response?
Nothing, GB was dumb as a businessman and a politician.

BK
From: Howard Brazee on
On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 08:15:36 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:

>> >getting insurance after you get sick is not buying insurance, it is getting
>> >someone to pay for your illness.
>>
>>
>> Being denied insurance because you were treated for acne as a child
>> isn't because you're paying someone for your illness.
>
>Is health insurance a contract, yes or no?

Yes. Which doesn't change my statement.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison
From: William Clark on
In article <97mso5tl7f3i6rgntdinma4aktsftqgjj4(a)4ax.com>,
Howard Brazee <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 09:11:26 -0800, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com>
> wrote:
>
> >> Someone seriously injured in a road accident is not in a position to
> >> make a choice about going to an emergency room or not. Your analogy is
> >> simply absurd.
> >
> >Ever heard of car insurance, William? It's a choice each American makes.
> >Perhaps you should find a better analogy.
>
> Not everybody injured in car accidents is a driver. Should
> pedestrians have to have uninsured driver insurance?

That's OK - he's just being deliberately dense to avoid staring the
facts in the face.
From: William Clark on
In article <7v5ijiF60dU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
"dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:

> "William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message
> news:clark-165BD7.16552402032010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> > In article <7v4utkFhm2U1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> > "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:
> >
> > > "William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message
> > > news:clark-16613B.08164202032010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> > > > In article <MPG.25f6381e38917097989c7b(a)news.giganews.com>,
> > > > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > In article <lgqoo5plbuimmmsfl95n852l6kfcg2vik7(a)4ax.com>,
> > > > > bknight(a)conramp.net says...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:26:02 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >In article <4b8c6809$0$30950$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> > > > > > >nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:09:19 -0700, Howard Brazee wrote:
> > > > > > >> > On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:57:20 -0800 (PST), Dinosaur_Sr
> > > > > > >> > <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote:
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >>> Agreed, but it works both ways. If someone loses their job
> and
> > > needs
> > > > > > >> >>> to buy a private insurance policy, insurance cos. shouldn't
> be
> > > > > > >> >>> allowed to turn them down because of the state of their
> health.
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >> No problem. The question is, who is going to pay for it? The
> > > clear
> > > > > > >> >> consensus in the US is that ordinary working people feel
> they
> > > pay too
> > > > > > >> >> much to the govt, and they don't want to pay any more, in
> fact,
> > > they
> > > > > > >> >> want to pay less.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Who pays for it now?
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > (We do).
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> The ideologues seem to be ignoring this obvious fact with all
> their
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Everyone should pay for the services they receive. If you don't
> pay
> > > you
> > > > > > >should go to jail for stealing.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >If someone walked into your house and grabbed your wife's jewelry
> and
> > > > > > >your computer and other valuables so that they could eat would
> you
> > > call
> > > > > > >the police? Would you just let them steal from you?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Bert, you really need to do some studying on analogies. This one
> was
> > > > > > so far off it isn't even funny.....even for you.
> > > > >
> > > > > Stealing is stealing. When you got to a place of business and you
> have
> > > > > have no intention of paying for the services you receive you are
> > > > > stealing.
> > > >
> > > > Someone seriously injured in a road accident is not in a position to
> > > > make a choice about going to an emergency room or not. Your analogy is
> > > > simply absurd.
> > >
> > > Ever heard of car insurance, William? It's a choice each American
> makes.
> > > Perhaps you should find a better analogy.
> > >
> > > -Greg
> >
> > Do you know how much of your medical expenses car insurance will cover?
> > Thank you. But, for the benefit of the hard of thinking, let's call it
> > getting hit by falling masonry while walking in the street.
> >
> > There. Got it now?
>
> Fine. If there is no liability insurance to cover the accident first, then
> one's health insurance will take over.
>
> If you don't have it, get it.
>
> -Greg

Provided you can afford it.
From: William Clark on
In article <4b8dbd26$0$4858$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 10:42:13 -0800, John B. wrote:
>
> > In the UK, you may wait for months for elective surgery. If you need
> > urgent care, you get it right away.
>
> Same with Canada.

Guess what, doctors will actually visit you at home, too. Try that in
the US.