Liberal solution to illegal immigration
in [Golf]
|
Prev: March of the Titans (brief video re: White Race, 1 min, 30sec)
Next: What the heck is Tiger doing?
From: William Clark on 13 May 2010 15:13 In article <852go6F988U1(a)mid.individual.net>, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote: > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > news:4beb3703$0$18433$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > > On Wed, 12 May 2010 16:56:18 -0500, bknight wrote: > >> On 12 May 2010 21:49:06 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> > >> wrote: > >>>On Wed, 12 May 2010 08:28:16 -0400, BAR wrote: > >>>> In article <4be9f994$0$4884$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > >>>> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > >>>>> On Tue, 11 May 2010 20:02:10 -0400, BAR wrote: > >>>>>> In article <m44ju5hbdrpf9b2o5revnestdf2k4kt3m0(a)4ax.com>, > >>>>>> bknight(a)conramp.net says... > >>>>>>> On Tue, 11 May 2010 10:16:25 -0700, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> A chance to do what? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> C'mon Greg. That's perfectly clear. I wouldn't dare ask you, or > >>>>>>> anyone else, for the answer to the illegal alien problem because > >>>>>>> its so complicated, , but I will ask you this: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Do you think BAR's suggestion (now said four times here) that > >>>>>>> anyone crossing our borders illegally should be summarily killed? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> That only requires a simple yes or no. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Your problem Bobby is that you refuse to address the hard problems. > >>>>>> And, your refusal to adress the hard problems is then transferred to > >>>>>> everyone else. You would rather sit back, throw your hands in the > >>>>>> air and say live and let live. When in reality that attitude is what > >>>>>> continually gets us in trouble. > >>>>> > >>>>> And your problem is that you insist on simple answers when there are > >>>>> none to be had. > >>>> > >>>> You don't know if there is a simple answer. You reject all > >>>> possibilities except open borders. > >>> > >>>I did nothing of the kind. I did say that the issue is more complicated > >>>than you realize. Which is self-evident if you believe the answer is to > >>>murder everyone you think might be trying to cross the border illegally. > >> > >> Nor have I suggested open borders. Carbs, I don't agree with your > >> stance to open them, but certainly am not agreeable to murder. > > > > I don't think I ever advocated opening the borders. My suggestion was to > > leave things as they are. I honestly don't see how undocumented workers > > are destroying the country by working for low wages and no benefits at > > jobs Americans refuse to do. > > You fail to realize that not all the people streaming over our current open > border are not here to work. > > http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=6848672&page=1 > > http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/05/19/phoenix.drug.kidnappings/ I think your double negative has just disemboweled your point.
From: MNMikeW on 13 May 2010 15:23 "William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message news:clark-3F63D0.15131813052010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > In article <852go6F988U1(a)mid.individual.net>, > "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote: > >> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message >> news:4beb3703$0$18433$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >> > On Wed, 12 May 2010 16:56:18 -0500, bknight wrote: >> >> On 12 May 2010 21:49:06 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> >> >> wrote: >> >>>On Wed, 12 May 2010 08:28:16 -0400, BAR wrote: >> >>>> In article <4be9f994$0$4884$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, >> >>>> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... >> >>>>> On Tue, 11 May 2010 20:02:10 -0400, BAR wrote: >> >>>>>> In article <m44ju5hbdrpf9b2o5revnestdf2k4kt3m0(a)4ax.com>, >> >>>>>> bknight(a)conramp.net says... >> >>>>>>> On Tue, 11 May 2010 10:16:25 -0700, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> >> >>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> A chance to do what? >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> C'mon Greg. That's perfectly clear. I wouldn't dare ask you, or >> >>>>>>> anyone else, for the answer to the illegal alien problem because >> >>>>>>> its so complicated, , but I will ask you this: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Do you think BAR's suggestion (now said four times here) that >> >>>>>>> anyone crossing our borders illegally should be summarily >> >>>>>>> killed? >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> That only requires a simple yes or no. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Your problem Bobby is that you refuse to address the hard >> >>>>>> problems. >> >>>>>> And, your refusal to adress the hard problems is then transferred >> >>>>>> to >> >>>>>> everyone else. You would rather sit back, throw your hands in the >> >>>>>> air and say live and let live. When in reality that attitude is >> >>>>>> what >> >>>>>> continually gets us in trouble. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> And your problem is that you insist on simple answers when there >> >>>>> are >> >>>>> none to be had. >> >>>> >> >>>> You don't know if there is a simple answer. You reject all >> >>>> possibilities except open borders. >> >>> >> >>>I did nothing of the kind. I did say that the issue is more >> >>>complicated >> >>>than you realize. Which is self-evident if you believe the answer is >> >>>to >> >>>murder everyone you think might be trying to cross the border >> >>>illegally. >> >> >> >> Nor have I suggested open borders. Carbs, I don't agree with your >> >> stance to open them, but certainly am not agreeable to murder. >> > >> > I don't think I ever advocated opening the borders. My suggestion was >> > to >> > leave things as they are. I honestly don't see how undocumented workers >> > are destroying the country by working for low wages and no benefits at >> > jobs Americans refuse to do. >> >> You fail to realize that not all the people streaming over our current >> open >> border are not here to work. >> >> http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=6848672&page=1 >> >> http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/05/19/phoenix.drug.kidnappings/ > > I think your double negative has just disemboweled your point. Ahh, yes that second not shouldn't be there. But you get the point. Not Clark of course, but everyone else should.
From: John B. on 13 May 2010 16:54 On May 12, 5:55 pm, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > On Wed, 12 May 2010 10:24:29 -0500, MNMikeW wrote: > > "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > >news:4be9f0e7$0$19807$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > > >> There is NO WAY that all these undocumented workers are doing enough > >> damage to the country to justify the cost of hunting them down and > >> getting rid of them. > > > Tell that to Arizona. > > They're certainly going to spend a lot of money with their new pogrom. They sure are. What are they going to do with the people they arrest under the new law? Drive them to the ICE Field Office in Phoenix and dump them there? Arizona is a huge state. Or will they call the ICE office and demand that they come and get them, then hold them for a week or more until someone from ICE can take an entire day out of his schedule to go pick them up? The AZ law doesn't give local jurisdictions authority to deport illegal aliens - only to arrest them.
From: John B. on 13 May 2010 17:01 On May 12, 6:24 pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <d530ec09-df00-468c-bc90-2db3ba28e583 > @p2g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says... > > > > > > > On May 12, 8:27 am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > > In article <6hsju5ps13t3chal0m69rq4ad9lvt1h...(a)4ax.com>, > > > bkni...(a)conramp.net says... > > > > > On Tue, 11 May 2010 20:02:10 -0400, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > > >Your problem Bobby is that you refuse to address the hard problems.. And, > > > > >your refusal to adress the hard problems is then transferred to everyone > > > > >else. You would rather sit back, throw your hands in the air and say > > > > >live and let live. When in reality that attitude is what continually > > > > >gets us in trouble. > > > > > Your problem, Bert, is that you've established yourself as a loony, > > > > idiotic, half-baked, fool. You excise those parts of others' posts > > > > that show these traits and simply go on as you actually have a > > > > reasonable thought. > > > > The newsreader I use has a habit of only grabbing part of the previous > > > content when I click on follow up so I choose to only include the most > > > recent information. If you want to follow the entire thread then you can > > > refer to the headers to get the information that you so desperately > > > seek. > > > > > The issue is whether or not a person should lose their life over > > > > simply crossing a border illegally. If you truly believe this you're > > > > to be pitied. Every simple-minded example you've given has shown > > > > this. You can't compare a border crossing with someone entering your > > > > home. One has absolute probabilities of causing bodily harm, the > > > > other doesn't. However, in your shallow thinking they're the same. > > > > Tattooing is also a suggestion of yours and you don't even see the > > > > parallels of this to Germany in the 30s, or maybe you think that was a > > > > good idea. > > > > The issue is what is your solution to the illegal immigration problem.. > > > You failure to propose a solution is telling of your desire to not > > > address the problem. My solution is just a starting point, a point from > > > one perspective to start the discussion. You fail to participate in the > > > discussion. > > > > Propose a solution. Saying the problem is too big and too complicated is > > > a cop out. > > > > > You're a cretin and a fool. > > > > At leat I am willing to do something about problems. > > > Really? What are you willing to do? Go down to the border and kill a > > few yourself? I bet you'd enjoy that. > > I am willing to start talking about the problem and offering ideas and > solutions. Something your are ill equiped to do. The "ideas and solutions" you've offered are disgusting and reprehensible. I would no sooner try to have an intelligent debate with you than with Idi Amin.
From: John B. on 13 May 2010 17:11
On May 12, 6:26 pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <4beb2457$0$4865$9a6e1...(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > > > > > On Wed, 12 May 2010 08:27:16 -0400, BAR wrote: > > > In article <6hsju5ps13t3chal0m69rq4ad9lvt1h...(a)4ax.com>, > > > bkni...(a)conramp.net says... > > > >> You're a cretin and a fool. > > > > At least I am willing to do something about problems. > > > If your solution is shooting people in the face, then perhaps everyone > > would be better off if you weren't. > > You have to start the discussion somewhere. I chose to start it at an > extreme. Trying to decouple ourselves from our own despicable remarks, are we? You didn't really mean that people should be killed for crossing the border, you were just trying to start a discussion, right? Good luck with that, pal. You didn't start this discussion. Someone else did. |