From: dene on

"Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 12 May 2010 09:59:20 -0500, MNMikeW wrote:
> > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:4be9f5f2$0$18607$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
> >> On Tue, 11 May 2010 18:42:37 -0400, BAR wrote:
> >>> In article <4be8ade2$0$22444$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> >>> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
> >>>> On Mon, 10 May 2010 19:57:09 -0400, BAR wrote:
> >>>>> In article <b7a230ab-06a3-4fd7-9b9d-c3656cb2d549
> >>>>> @j35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says...
> >>>>>> On May 9, 10:32 pm, kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On May 9, 9:13 am, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Please provide proof that putting the US military on the border
> >>>>>>>> and shooting anyone trying to enter the country illegally is a
> >>>>>>>> good idea.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Proof? We don't need no stinking proof. It is clearly a good
> >>>>>>> idea.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If you're stupid and barbaric.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Do you have locks on the doors of your house and cars? If yes,
> >>>>> why?
> >>>>
> >>>> Please tell me you're not trying to equate murdering Mexicans with
> >>>> locking doors.
> >>>
> >>> Keeping illegals out of our country is just like keeping burglars
> >>> out of your house. In that sense it is the same thing. What you and
> >>> your ilk fail to understand is that illegal is illegal regardless of
> >>> whether you agree with the law.
> >>
> >> We studied personality types in college psychology. There is a
> >> segment of the population that is unable to distinguish the
> >> difference between law and morality. They think that all laws are
> >> good laws and be followed, no matter how pointless or ridiculous.
> >> These people suffer from a condition called stupidity.
> >
> > You mean like the people who cant tell the difference between
> > immigration and illegal immigration? Those stupid people?
>
> I guess I meant more fair-weather free-market capitalists like yourself
> who choose to forget that workers are going to go where the jobs are,
> borders or not. It seems ironic that you idologues suddenly forget all
> about supply and demand and now want the government to step in and blow
> billions of dollars sealing the Mexican border. Do you believe in
> free-market capitalism, or not? Do you want a small government, or not?

I think protecting our borders is a national security issue and is a direct
responsibility of the federal government. It should be funded to the nth
degree.

-Greg


From: dene on

"Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
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> In article <MPG.2654f690e8450857989eee(a)news.giganews.com>,
> BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <clark-BBECED.16531312052010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
> > state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says...
> > >
> > > In article <MPG.2653b9f68d912acd989ed9(a)news.giganews.com>,
> > > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > In article <wclark2-552823.19492411052010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
> > > > state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says...
> > > > > > > > No, I said we should tattoo those caught here as illegal
aliens
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > deport them. The scarlet letter has its uses.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why not just tattoo a number on their arms and then send them
to
> > > > > > > extermination camps? Oh, wait, someone else tried that, didn't
> > > > > > > they?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you carry your green card with you at all times. It is US
federal
> > > > > > law.
> > > > >
> > > > > So you do think the "camps" are a good idea. What a real charmer.
> > > >
> > > > Become a citizen and then get the law changed.
> > >
> > > When all else fails, use the "foreigners out" hysteria.
> > >
> > > How pathetic.
> >
> > Are you carrying your green card, US Federal law requires that you have
> > it on your person all of the time.
>
> As William said, you're pathetic.

So saith a pompous professor and a troll.

-Greg


From: Alan Baker on
In article <850rccFcpgU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
"dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:

> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-7A2C0F.15345412052010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> > In article <MPG.2654f690e8450857989eee(a)news.giganews.com>,
> > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <clark-BBECED.16531312052010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
> > > state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says...
> > > >
> > > > In article <MPG.2653b9f68d912acd989ed9(a)news.giganews.com>,
> > > > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > In article <wclark2-552823.19492411052010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
> > > > > state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says...
> > > > > > > > > No, I said we should tattoo those caught here as illegal
> aliens
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > > deport them. The scarlet letter has its uses.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Why not just tattoo a number on their arms and then send them
> to
> > > > > > > > extermination camps? Oh, wait, someone else tried that, didn't
> > > > > > > > they?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do you carry your green card with you at all times. It is US
> federal
> > > > > > > law.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So you do think the "camps" are a good idea. What a real charmer.
> > > > >
> > > > > Become a citizen and then get the law changed.
> > > >
> > > > When all else fails, use the "foreigners out" hysteria.
> > > >
> > > > How pathetic.
> > >
> > > Are you carrying your green card, US Federal law requires that you have
> > > it on your person all of the time.
> >
> > As William said, you're pathetic.
>
> So saith a pompous professor and a troll.
>
> -Greg

LOL

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: Carbon on
On Wed, 12 May 2010 18:18:57 -0400, BAR wrote:
> In article <4be9fb52$0$4884$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>
>> The so-called WAR ON DRUGS has gone on for decades and has cost
>> billions upon billions of dollars. For a drug problem that is worse
>> than in many countries with way more permissive laws.
>
> You are free to emmigrate to one of those more permissive countries at
> any time. You do not have to live in this backwards country if you
> don't want to. But, you chose to stay here so accept the laws and live
> within them.

Can't think of anything to say exept for the same couple of platitudes,
eh Bert?
From: Loudon Briggs on
bknight(a)conramp.net wrote:

>On Wed, 12 May 2010 14:37:55 -0700, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>><bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
>>news:h68lu5l936kdfm35fe0fgtlht8ncgubspd(a)4ax.com...
> - Show quoted text -
>>> >
>>> >The rights of which you speak are for citizens. Not for illegals
>>> >charging across our border or terrorists in Gitmo.

>>>
>>> Wrong, and that seems to have become usual for you about this. America
>>> is not a police state and everyone that is arrested here is given a
>>> fair trial. That is a right that is afforded every human being in the
>>> U.S.
>>>
>>> BK
>>
>>An illegal criminal has a right to a fair trial. If found innocent, then
>>deportation. All illegals have the right for swift but humane deportation.
>
>>-Greg
>>
>
>but you said "Bingo to this statement:
>>> >The rights of which you speak are for citizens. Not for illegals
>>> >charging across our border or terrorists in Gitmo.
>>> >
>>> >Ken
>
>Why would you agree with it, then post the above...which is true?
****************

I think you're all confused to some degree.

If the person is charged with illegal entry only, they are NOT sent to
trial... they are turned over to U.S. Customs and get a "hearing,"
which is totally different from a trial. The normal result is
deportation.

If they commit some other crime and are caught, they go to trial,
resulting in deportation or prison, usually dependent upon the
severity of the crime. Unfortunately, deportation does little to
exacerbate the situation... there are some who have been deported a
dozen times and returned illegally.

I live in Arizona and probably understand the situation a bit better
than most of you who speak as experts and display your "holier than
thou" personalities. It's a condition brought about by the inaction of
the Federal Government... mainly Congressmen from YOUR state, who do
not have to confront the problem on a regular basis.

Get a copy of the law and read it... if interested, Google S.B. 1070
and learn something! Then you might have some comprehension of what
you're talking about... then you might agree with me, or... maybe not!


--

Loudon R. Briggs larebe(a)bbz.net Phoenix, AZ

"How Can You Not Like A Game Where It's Okay To
Get Teed Off, Tote A Six-Iron, Shoot Birdies,
and If You're Under Par It's A Great Day!"

(from "Frank & Ernest" by Bob Thaves -- used with permission)