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From: BAR on 12 May 2010 18:23 In article <10cf01f6-168e-4aa4-bc7e-1139ec716225 @l31g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says... > > > > No I haven't changed the standard. You fail to realized that illegally > > entering the US is the same as illegally entering your house, both are > > crimes and both should be punished. However, you believe one should be > > rewarded. And, maybe you believe entering your house illegally should be > > rewarded too. > > You have a habit of mischaracterizing people's beliefs to justify your > own. I do not believe illegal aliens should be rewarded. But I don't > believe they should be killed, either. Since you're so adamant about > upholding the law, why is it that you want to condone murder? It's sad > that you're not smart enough to understand what the consequences would > be. What is your solution to the illegal immigration problem, other than comprehensive immigration reform which is just a Democrat talking point. Either put forth an idea or a plan or go away. Once your plan or idea is on the table then we can start discussing the finer points. But, like some here you babe afraid to put forth any plans or ideas. Your problem is you are anti other peoples ideas this only goes so far as you and your fellow liberal/progressives were telling us just a few short months ago with regard to health care reform.
From: BAR on 12 May 2010 18:24 In article <d530ec09-df00-468c-bc90-2db3ba28e583 @p2g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says... > > On May 12, 8:27�am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > In article <6hsju5ps13t3chal0m69rq4ad9lvt1h...(a)4ax.com>, > > bkni...(a)conramp.net says... > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 11 May 2010 20:02:10 -0400, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > > >Your problem Bobby is that you refuse to address the hard problems. And, > > > >your refusal to adress the hard problems is then transferred to everyone > > > >else. You would rather sit back, throw your hands in the air and say > > > >live and let live. When in reality that attitude is what continually > > > >gets us in trouble. > > > > > Your problem, Bert, is that you've established yourself as a loony, > > > idiotic, half-baked, fool. �You excise those parts of others' posts > > > that show these traits and simply go on as you actually have a > > > reasonable thought. � > > > > The newsreader I use has a habit of only grabbing part of the previous > > content when I click on follow up so I choose to only include the most > > recent information. If you want to follow the entire thread then you can > > refer to the headers to get the information that you so desperately > > seek. > > > > > The issue is whether or not a person should lose their life over > > > simply crossing a border illegally. �If you truly believe this you're > > > to be pitied. �Every simple-minded example you've given has shown > > > this. �You can't compare a border crossing with someone entering your > > > home. �One has absolute probabilities of causing bodily harm, the > > > other doesn't. �However, in your shallow thinking they're the same. > > > Tattooing is also a suggestion of yours and you don't even see the > > > parallels of this to Germany in the 30s, or maybe you think that was a > > > good idea. > > > > The issue is what is your solution to the illegal immigration problem. > > You failure to propose a solution is telling of your desire to not > > address the problem. My solution is just a starting point, a point from > > one perspective to start the discussion. You fail to participate in the > > discussion. > > > > Propose a solution. Saying the problem is too big and too complicated is > > a cop out. > > > > > You're a cretin and a fool. > > > > At leat I am willing to do something about problems. > > Really? What are you willing to do? Go down to the border and kill a > few yourself? I bet you'd enjoy that. I am willing to start talking about the problem and offering ideas and solutions. Something your are ill equiped to do.
From: BAR on 12 May 2010 18:25 In article <ch9lu51f5a09acgf8d5fnu4prbani7pp17(a)4ax.com>, bknight(a)conramp.net says... > > On Wed, 12 May 2010 08:27:16 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > >In article <6hsju5ps13t3chal0m69rq4ad9lvt1h89u(a)4ax.com>, > >bknight(a)conramp.net says... > >> > >> On Tue, 11 May 2010 20:02:10 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > >> You're a cretin and a fool. > > > >At leat I am willing to do something about problems. > > You're willing to do something? > > Like offer very stupid, asinine, batty, birdbrained, crazy, daffy, > daft, dumb, fatuous, foolhardy, harebrained, imbecilic, inane, > insane, lunatic, moronic, senseless, silly, squirrelly, thick-witted, > unintelligent suggestions to problems that you really don't have the > insight to discuss? > > ON A GOLF NEWSGROUP! What does it say about you that you argue with me, on a golf newsgroup?
From: BAR on 12 May 2010 18:26 In article <4beb2457$0$4865$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > > On Wed, 12 May 2010 08:27:16 -0400, BAR wrote: > > In article <6hsju5ps13t3chal0m69rq4ad9lvt1h89u(a)4ax.com>, > > bknight(a)conramp.net says... > > > >> You're a cretin and a fool. > > > > At leat I am willing to do something about problems. > > If your solution is shooting people in the face, then perhaps everyone > would be better off if you weren't. You have to start the discussion somewhere. I chose to start it at an extreme.
From: BAR on 12 May 2010 18:27
In article <go8mu591jk7ucglolducjuecf4p20dld64(a)4ax.com>, bknight(a)conramp.net says... > > On 12 May 2010 21:49:06 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> > wrote: > > >On Wed, 12 May 2010 08:28:16 -0400, BAR wrote: > >> In article <4be9f994$0$4884$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > >> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > >>> On Tue, 11 May 2010 20:02:10 -0400, BAR wrote: > >>>> In article <m44ju5hbdrpf9b2o5revnestdf2k4kt3m0(a)4ax.com>, > >>>> bknight(a)conramp.net says... > >>>>> On Tue, 11 May 2010 10:16:25 -0700, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> A chance to do what? > >>>>> > >>>>> C'mon Greg. That's perfectly clear. I wouldn't dare ask you, or > >>>>> anyone else, for the answer to the illegal alien problem because > >>>>> its so complicated, , but I will ask you this: > >>>>> > >>>>> Do you think BAR's suggestion (now said four times here) that > >>>>> anyone crossing our borders illegally should be summarily killed? > >>>>> > >>>>> That only requires a simple yes or no. > >>>> > >>>> Your problem Bobby is that you refuse to address the hard problems. > >>>> And, your refusal to adress the hard problems is then transferred to > >>>> everyone else. You would rather sit back, throw your hands in the > >>>> air and say live and let live. When in reality that attitude is what > >>>> continually gets us in trouble. > >>> > >>> And your problem is that you insist on simple answers when there are > >>> none to be had. > >> > >> You don't know if there is a simple answer. You reject all > >> possibilities except open borders. > > > >I did nothing of the kind. I did say that the issue is more complicated > >than you realize. Which is self-evident if you believe the answer is to > >murder everyone you think might be trying to cross the border illegally. > > Nor have I suggested open borders. Carbs, I don't agree with your > stance to open them, but certainly am not agreeable to murder. > > As for BAR's charges. I do leave this problem to those that will be > held to fix it. I do not transfer that charge to anyone on this NG, > and especially Bert. I wouldn't allow him the possibility to make any > policy about any thing. Your abdication of your civil duty is either amazing or sad. |